Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-29 Thread Taj Khattra
> http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/Saltzerthumbnails.pdf http://mit.edu/6.033/2004/wwwdocs/handouts/L26.2004.pdf for a more recent set - although a couple of systems mentioned on slide 32 (conceptual integrity) are very suspect :)

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-29 Thread uriel
>> It happens because engineers are too lazy or scared to try to >> understand the code they are modifying, and a layer seems safer. My >> case was 3 years of 2 code teams. Imagine 10 years of open-source- >> like distributed development :-( > > your experience tallies with slide 24 from jerome

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-29 Thread Taj Khattra
> It happens because engineers are too lazy or scared to try to > understand the code they are modifying, and a layer seems safer. My > case was 3 years of 2 code teams. Imagine 10 years of open-source- > like distributed development :-( your experience tallies with slide 24 from jerome saltzer'

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread geoff
I took another run at pgp 6.5.1i and 6.5.8 and gave up again. They've taken what was a fairly simple source tree and smashed it up and swizzled it around, then added the configure goo and makefiles and shell scripts that helpfully rerun configure when it's already been run. This is self-inflicted

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Paul Lalonde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I should have said "time-pressured" not lazy; but yes, bang on. Paul On 28-Mar-06, at 7:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't personally know any lazy engineers, but i do know quite a few that are scared of being the scapegoat. i worked on a

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread geoff
We ought to have a recent pgp or gpg both for mail and local encryption. I've just converted a cpu server to linux, so I should be able to run configure there, once I decide which version to try.

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread quanstro
i don't personally know any lazy engineers, but i do know quite a few that are scared of being the scapegoat. i worked on a big full-text search project that never wrote its own search engine. we used OpenText pat, pls/cpl (later bought by aol), excalibur, inktomi hosted search and probablly a

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Paul Lalonde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28-Mar-06, at 9:29 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: ( gnupg and those tools are really big, why are they so big? silly question, probably. Some years ago I had to drop a new graphics engine into an existing code base. Their performance was hid

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread erik quanstrom
somehow you understood the opposite of what i ment. the point is that using encrypted/signed s/mime with upas should be transparent. i would think the easiest way to do that would be to do the translation as close to the edges of the system as possible. those edges would be upas/fs -- which pre

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Fernan Bolando
On 3/29/06, Gabriel Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello > > because those tools support a lot of algorithms / mime / certificates, etc, > :-? > if all you want is crypt a file and be able to read it between > windows. lunix, plan9 :-? > > I doesn't mean those tools are big compared to ones wit

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Gabriel Diaz
hello because those tools support a lot of algorithms / mime / certificates, etc, :-? if all you want is crypt a file and be able to read it between windows. lunix, plan9 :-? I doesn't mean those tools are big compared to ones with the same functionality, may be i choose a bad expression, sorry.

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
> ( gnupg and those > tools are really big, why are they so big? silly question, probably.

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Gabriel Diaz
Hello May be it is easy to make upas plumb the signatures and encription to other tool. About the files, i think there are tools that will "compile" on the three environments and will crypt streams of bytes (cat | crypt > file.crypt ), i think that is the easier way :-? ( gnupg and those tools ar

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Bruce Ellis
ozinferno is based on an encrypted filesystem - the last work i did with boyd. i'll try and get a release together when i'm less ill. brucee On 3/29/06, Anthony Sorace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik Quanstrom wrote: > // i think a better route would be to build s/mime compatable signatures >

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
Erik Quanstrom wrote: // i think a better route would be to build s/mime compatable signatures // and encryption into upas/fs and upas/marshal so applications without // a need to know would not have to know. i'm not really sure what you mean by that. certainly we shouldn't require the content-pro

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-28 Thread Eric Grosse
auth/aescbc already includes anti-tampering checks, based on SHA1 which is better than MD5. But aescbc was never intended to last this long; it was a temporary measure until NIST settled on a common mode of operation, presumably CTR rather than CBC. It's not clear yet if mode (or the hash functi

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-27 Thread erik quanstrom
i think a better route would be to build s/mime compatable signatures and encryption into upas/fs and upas/marshal so applications without a need to know would not have to know. - erik On Mon Mar 27 18:39:14 CST 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Fernan wrote: > // I am trying to get some sort of

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
Fernan wrote: // I am trying to get some sort of encyption. Protability between p9, linux and // windows is a bit critical for my application ( I am paranoid ). pgp or gpg would be nice for portability, as well as for other things, like signing mail. in the mean time, inferno's 'idea' performs the

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-27 Thread Fernan Bolando
On 3/27/06, Lluís Batlle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can take a look at ccrypt (ccrypt.sf.net) if it's about file encryption, > but I don't know if it wil work on plan9. I've only compiled it with the > called "gnu configure machinery". > > 2006/3/27, Fernan Bolando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-27 Thread Lluís Batlle
You can take a look at ccrypt (ccrypt.sf.net) if it's about file encryption, but I don't know if it wil work on plan9. I've only compiled it with the called "gnu configure machinery".2006/3/27, Fernan Bolando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 3/27/06, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> If you are just l

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-27 Thread Fernan Bolando
On 3/27/06, Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are just looking for file encryption then > auth/aescbc will do that for you. A little script > would allow you to validate a locally held md5sum > digest of the file to inform you of any tampering. > Aescbc is not portable outside of plan

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-26 Thread Steve Simon
If you are just looking for file encryption then auth/aescbc will do that for you. A little script would allow you to validate a locally held md5sum digest of the file to inform you of any tampering. Aescbc is not portable outside of plan9 - p9p not withstanding. -Steve

Re: [9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-26 Thread geoff
I got pgp 2.6.2 running under APE without much trouble years ago. The newer g?pgp?s all seem to rely on the gnu configure machinery, so I haven't made the effort. It would be helpful if somebody got a version of g?pgp? running that understood all the key formats, if such a version exists.

[9fans] gnupg or pgp for plan9?

2006-03-26 Thread Fernan Bolando
Hi all Anybody working on a port of gnupg. I would like to use it store sensitive files to public servers like mordor etc. ,Fernan -- Public PGP/GnuPG key (http://www.fernski.com) pub 1024D/3576CA71 2006-02-02 Fernan Bolando Key fingerprint = FDFE C9A8 FFED C1A5 2F5C EFEB D595 AF1C 3576 CA71