Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-14 Thread John Henckel
I recommend that when (if?) the ABC notation standard is updated, it should contain syntax for "helper" accidentals. I am going to hack my version of abcm2ps (called jhabc2ps) to support accidentals in parentheses. Does anyone have a recommendation for the syntax? I am thinking about using '

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread stephanie
hi I'd tried many times to un subscribe with no success. Can someone pleazse remove me? Thanks Steph At 21:28 14/11/00 -0500, you wrote: >Phil Taylor wrote: > > > Would you then expect a K: field in multivoice to affect all voices > > simultaneously? It's not the case in BarFly, since you can hav

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread Eric Galluzzo
Phil Taylor wrote: > Would you then expect a K: field in multivoice to affect all voices > simultaneously? It's not the case in BarFly, since you can have > simultaneous voices playing in different keys. (I haven't actually > found any use for this, but it might come in handy if I ever get > av

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread Eric Galluzzo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > | So I was just talking about a feature of displaying tools, not a real > | feature of ABC. > | For a quick hack, for me the "^17"z8 would work, but not if I would > | extract my clarinet part from a whole partitur. > > The traditional staff notation also qualifies as

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: >Phil Taylor wrote: >| John Atchley wrote: >| >Finally, just to throw an even bigger wrench in the works, I'm pretty >sure I've >| >seen a bit of abc that names the voices, instead of numbering them. I.e. >| >something like V: alto to switch to the voice named alto. Apparent

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread Henning Kiel
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Henning Kiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ecrivit: > | On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > | >| "^20"z8 | or | !17!z8 | > | > | But a midiplayer would of course not wait 17 bars... > > Well, if it were combining multiple voices, I'd hope i

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread jc
Phil Taylor wrote: | John Atchley wrote: | >Finally, just to throw an even bigger wrench in the works, I'm pretty sure I've | >seen a bit of abc that names the voices, instead of numbering them. I.e. | >something like V: alto to switch to the voice named alto. Apparently, there must | >be some p

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread jc
Henning Kiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ecrivit: | On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | >| "^20"z8 | or | !17!z8 | | | But a midiplayer would of course not wait 17 bars... Well, if it were combining multiple voices, I'd hope it would. But when playing just the one part, it could be

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread John Atchley
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Phil Taylor wrote: > John Atchley wrote: > >On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Phil Taylor wrote: > >> as an option. (It's not difficult to program; you just have to treat > >> a space following the voice number as equivalent to a line end.) > > > >Doing so would blow all the abc with V:1

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread John Atchley
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Henning Kiel wrote: > I don't know how other programs than abcm2ps handle !f! symbols > (abc2ps doesn't), but abcm2ps prints the symbols above the music line, > but I would like to have it below... > Do we need a %%symbolsbelow tag here? In jaabc2ps I used two switches for ea

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread Anselm Lingnau
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In particular, we have proposals to use "^text" and !text! as > musical annotations, where !foo! seems to be restricted to common > musical directives, "^foo" is any sort of text above the staff, and > "_foo" is the same text below th

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread Phil Taylor
John Atchley wrote: >On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Phil Taylor wrote: >> BarFly doesn't require this; you can write the music either on the >> same line as the V: field or on the following line, but the former >> makes for compact and readable music, and I would like to retain it >> as an option. (It's n

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread John Atchley
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Phil Taylor wrote: > BarFly doesn't require this; you can write the music either on the > same line as the V: field or on the following line, but the former > makes for compact and readable music, and I would like to retain it > as an option. (It's not difficult to program;

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread Henning Kiel
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > | have you abc2whatever writers thought about writing compact symbols > | for rests spanning multiple bars? Especially if you have multi-voice > | music you come across this thing and printing 20 bars of rests is very > | annoying, even with barnumb

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread jc
Henning Kiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: | > James Allwright wrote: | > >When I first introduced the V: field into abc2midi, the syntax was very | > >simple: | > > | > >V: ... | > When I added the V: field to BarFly I considered that the voice which | > follows a V: label was a part of the field

Re: [abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread jc
| have you abc2whatever writers thought about writing compact symbols | for rests spanning multiple bars? Especially if you have multi-voice | music you come across this thing and printing 20 bars of rests is very | annoying, even with barnumbers and very ineffective in space. Hmmm ... I'd think

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread Phil Taylor
Henning Kiel wrote >So then why not use inline V: fields for this case? > >[V: 1] ab g2 | fe >[V: 2] g2 bf | d2 > No real reason except that it takes a couple of extra symbols, and involves placing an inline field at the start of a line, which seems a bit redundant. >Looks neat and does not requ

[abcusers] Multiple bars of rest

2000-11-14 Thread Henning Kiel
Hi, have you abc2whatever writers thought about writing compact symbols for rests spanning multiple bars? Especially if you have multi-voice music you come across this thing and printing 20 bars of rests is very annoying, even with barnumbers and very ineffective in space. I've seen rests spann

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread Henning Kiel
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Phil Taylor wrote: > James Allwright wrote: > > >When I first introduced the V: field into abc2midi, the syntax was very > >simple: > > > >V: > > > >Since then, people have added extra fields after the voice number, which > >is where the complication arises. Could we all agr

Re: [abcusers] V: field

2000-11-14 Thread Phil Taylor
James Allwright wrote: >When I first introduced the V: field into abc2midi, the syntax was very >simple: > >V: > >Since then, people have added extra fields after the voice number, which >is where the complication arises. Could we all agree on this first >bit ? Simple parsers can then just ignore