[abcusers] Re: ABC 1.x continuations (was ABC 2.0 draft)

2004-03-12 Thread Steven Bennett
I. Oppenheim wrote: >> As for the 1.6 and 1.7.6 specifications, regardless of what program X, Y, or >> Z does, the written spec is awfully vague. I have several possible >> approaches to different elements of this, but the basic concept appears to >> be that "\" at the end of a line isn't so much

[abcusers] ABC 2.0 spec questions/suggestions - line continuations

2004-03-12 Thread Tom Satter
Ok, here is my second suggestion on line continuations. Why don't you have a directive to specify the line breaking character. I know that you have an explicit line breaking character (!), and you have an implicit one (new line). I would suggest allowing the user to override the implicit charact

[abcusers] ABC 2.0 spec questions/suggestions - voice overlay

2004-03-12 Thread Tom Satter
Hello everyone, I am writing an ABC parser and just finished reading the entire 2.0 draft IV standard. I also just finished reading the abcusers list archive - I read most of the posts relating to the standards. I had two questions/suggestions for the standard that I think would help. I will po

Re: [abcusers] Making a book, how?

2004-03-12 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 14:45, John Walsh wrote: > Hi, > > This is certainly possible with abc2mtex---I've done it several times, > and it can look quite good. What do you mean by "Can't make them work?" > Can you be more specific? Is the problem printing? Previewing? > Seeing as it's TeX, there

Re: [abcusers] Making a book, how?

2004-03-12 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 14:43, Ewan A. Macpherson wrote: > On 12 Mar 2004 at 14:26, Jeremy Cowgar wrote: > > > Can anyone give me some suggestions as to how I would create a nice > > book. I want to be able to give a copy or two away to other people who > > play with me, otherwise I would just print

Re: [abcusers] Making a book, how?

2004-03-12 Thread John Walsh
Hi, This is certainly possible with abc2mtex---I've done it several times, and it can look quite good. What do you mean by "Can't make them work?" Can you be more specific? Is the problem printing? Previewing? Seeing as it's TeX, there are lots of possible problems... One possibility c

Re: [abcusers] Making a book, how?

2004-03-12 Thread Ewan A. Macpherson
On 12 Mar 2004 at 14:26, Jeremy Cowgar wrote: > Can anyone give me some suggestions as to how I would create a nice > book. I want to be able to give a copy or two away to other people who > play with me, otherwise I would just print the resulting file from > abcm2ps, but I would like to include a

[abcusers] Making a book, how?

2004-03-12 Thread Jeremy Cowgar
I have a collection of ABC tunes that I play frequently and would like to make a printed format of these in a nice book like format. I am familure with LaTeX so I thought that abc2mtex might be the way to go, but cannot make the generated file work. I can run all the musixtex examples and they come

[abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.5.0: Octaviation

2004-03-12 Thread Joerg Anders
Version 2.5.0 of the ABC music exporting musical score editor NoteEdit is available: http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html New features: - Octaviation (va - lines) - better mouse positioning support: A gray note near the cursor snaps to the

RE: [abcusers] PocketPC

2004-03-12 Thread Bryan Duggan
Derek,   Not just yet. I don’t read music and I was concentrating on the playing aspects first. I will probably get to it for version 2   Bryan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Bone Sent: 11 March 2004 20:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

[abcusers] Continuation rule [Was: ABC 2.0 draft]

2004-03-12 Thread John Chambers
Manuel Reiter writes; | | Maybe someone could state shortly why distinguishing between 'music' | and 'other' lines for continuation is a bad idea? Basically, it because we've seen something that has been discovered by users of numerous programming languages where the same sort of "continued

Re: [abcusers] ABC 2.0 draft

2004-03-12 Thread Manuel Reiter
One more note: - long lines of music with words to only a few notes The draft standard does not seem to disallow inlining 'w:' fields, but I don't think it is clear how they should be treated if they occur inline. Might I suggest to interpret them as "Put however many syllables are provided wit

Re: [abcusers] ABC 2.0 draft

2004-03-12 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi again, Maybe someone could state shortly why distinguishing between 'music' and 'other' lines for continuation is a bad idea? This is exactly what ABC 1.6 tried to do, and it was found to be overly complex and unclear in practice. The [...] syntax is a much cleaner and clearer way for achieving

Re: [abcusers] ABC 2.0 draft

2004-03-12 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Manuel Reiter wrote: > I imagine this could be useful for > - mid-line changes of key or meter This is now handled by [K: ] and [M: ] > - mid-line program-specific directives e.g. for abcmidi This is now handled by [I: ] > Maybe someone could state shortly why distinguishi

Re: [abcusers] ABC 2.0 draft

2004-03-12 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi, The quirk I'm wrestling with today is Continuation Lines, which seems to be the biggest single area (and the biggest can of worms on the list archive) where the 1.6 & 1.76 specs seriously conflict with the 2.0 draft spec. This is very true; conversely it was one of the biggest improvements i

Re: [abcusers] Continuation Lines

2004-03-12 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, John Walsh wrote: > As I remember, the real problems with the > continuation---apart from the incompatibility of 1.6 > and 2.0---come when there was a mixed bag: several > staves, lyrics, etc. The bottom line of that discussion was, that continuations are of not much u