Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-02-04 Thread ANewman110
On the other hand, that could be good for traditional musicians! Modern jazz (aka bebop) evolved partically out of a strange NYC tax on vocal music, that did not apply to instrumental music. Bert wrote: This means that a pub owner here has to pay nothing for a band that plays a traditional

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-02-03 Thread Bert Van Vreckem
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 10:34, Ray Davies wrote: This is done in the name of noise and saftey (although existing laws could be applied) but things like playing recorded music or showing a soccer on wide screen tv are exempted even though they can be more noisey, a football match on tv can draw

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-02-02 Thread Paulo Eleutério Tibúrcio
John Chambers wrote: Kurt wrote: | On 30-Jan-2003 John Chambers wrote: | | ...The Internet can't be killed, but there is | still a chance that it can be made illegal for you and me to put our | own stuff online. If they can do this, they can then force us to sign | over our

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-02-01 Thread Ray Davies
Jon Freeman writes So there's a world plot is there? I thought it was just the UK government who have new laws for public entertaiment in England and Wales. One aspect of it is that although the licence costs no more if you want live entertainment, you have to state it on your application

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread Kurt Kleiner
On 30-Jan-2003 John Chambers wrote: This sort of site is a real threat to the recording industry, and is really what the music piracy fuss is all about. Their main goal is to take control of the Internet and put distribution back into the hands of the oligopoly. The Internet can't

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread Buddha Buck
Kurt Kleiner wrote: On 30-Jan-2003 John Chambers wrote: This sort of site is a real threat to the recording industry, and is really what the music piracy fuss is all about. Their main goal is to take control of the Internet and put distribution back into the hands of the oligopoly. The

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread Christopher Myers
My own version of this story, or There and Back Again. I was always a geek. I was in Spelling Bees, read alot, sucked at sports, got picked on a lot (sound familiar?). In the 5th grade, they passed out little index cards with the intention of getting us to join the band. On the card was a list

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread Frank Nordberg
Buddha Buck wrote: ... In order for various DIgital Rights Managment schemes to work to prevent piracy, the digital players can only play works you have rights to play. This requires that the rights be encoded in the digital media, and signed in such a way to prevent forgery or

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread John Chambers
| John Chambers wrote: | | (Does this qualify as sufficiently funny to be a musical joke? ;-) | | It may be funny, but I don't think it's a joke. I think it falls into | the ha ha only serious category. There is, unfortunately, a lot of | truth in it. (I myself am a computer programmer, but I

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread John Chambers
Kurt wrote: | On 30-Jan-2003 John Chambers wrote: | | This sort of site is a real threat to the recording industry, and is | really what the music piracy fuss is all about. Their main goal is | to take control of the Internet and put distribution back into the | hands of the oligopoly.

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-31 Thread Jon Freeman
From: John Chambers We've recently seen things like the attempt to prosecute the Girl Scouts for singing copyrighted songs around the campfire. They did back off on that one, but only after a lot of publicity and outrage. There are all the attempts to stop things like pub sessions,

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread John Chambers
Toby Rider wrote: | | Why is it that there are so many musicians that are either computer | people or engineers? I've been playing music of one form or another since | I was in elementary school and I'm noticing a definate pattern here.. I | recently spoke to some of the guys who were part of my

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread Buddha Buck
John Chambers wrote: (Does this qualify as sufficiently funny to be a musical joke? ;-) It may be funny, but I don't think it's a joke. I think it falls into the ha ha only serious category. There is, unfortunately, a lot of truth in it. (I myself am a computer programmer, but I barely

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread Toby Rider
Can I repost those comments elsewhere off-list, with proper attribution (of course)? Which comments? Hopefully not the one about my friends having lot's of tattos and piercings.. :-) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread Buddha Buck
Toby Rider wrote: Can I repost those comments elsewhere off-list, with proper attribution (of course)? Which comments? Hopefully not the one about my friends having lot's of tattos and piercings.. :-) I've no problem with tatoos and piercings -- except that I've never felt strongly about

Re: [abcusers] Musicians and techies

2003-01-30 Thread Toby Rider
I was referring to John Chamber's insightful discourse on the music industry, musicians, computer/internet developers, and the future of music. Yes, John's post was excellent.. It should be preserved. BTW, are you the same guy who on the debian linux list? I think I've read your emails