Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-07 Thread DottieB
From: "Laura Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or even English: The First Noël > How do you do that in Outlook Express? Dottie B, unsophisticated user To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-05 Thread Bert Van Vreckem
Jean-Francois Moine wrote: On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:55:27 -0400, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Third, UTF-8 is designed so that Latin-1 characters are encoded as-is (which also means that 7-bit ASCII characters are encoded as-is), so all existing ABC files that use either ASCII o

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-05 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Wed, 02 Jul 2003 10:55:27 -0400, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >Third, UTF-8 is designed so that Latin-1 characters are encoded as-is >(which also means that 7-bit ASCII characters are encoded as-is), so all >existing ABC files that use either ASCII only or Latin-1 are

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-04 Thread John Chambers
Bernard Hill writes: | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes | > | >From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >> >Or even English: The First Noël | >> | >> That would be French. In English it's "The First Nowell". | > | >Well "Chloë" then. | > | >I have Spike J

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-04 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >Or even English: The First Noël >> >> That would be French. In English it's "The First Nowell". > >Well "Chloë" then. > >I have Spike Jones's magnificent recording somewhere

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-04 Thread David Webber
From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Or even English: The First Noël > > That would be French. In English it's "The First Nowell". Well "Chloë" then. I have Spike Jones's magnificent recording somewhere and I'm sure the title is spelled like that :-) Dave David Webber Author of MOZART

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-04 Thread Henrik Norbeck
John Chambers wrote: > Those are a slightly-abbreviated version of the TeX > notation, supported by abc2mtex and abc2ps. What other abc > tools implement these? AbcMus supports a bunch of them (if you select the option for doing so). I could post a list later. > (One thing I just notic

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: >| And what about \'a style accent notation? > >Those are a slightly-abbreviated version of the TeX >notation, supported by abc2mtex and abc2ps. What other abc >tools implement these? This is the set that BarFly supports (the right hand column may not come out corr

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> "Bernard" == Bernard Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Richard> Umm. Even if you "only" write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, >Richard> Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented >Rich

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Bernard" == Bernard Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Umm. Even if you "only" write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard> Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard> characters. If you don't write lyrics you'll want them for a tune Ri

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Laura Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> "Richard" == Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >writes: > > >Richard> Umm. Even if you "only" write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, >Richard> Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented >

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread John Chambers
I. Oppenheim wrote: | | > All I wrote is that ABC tunes are written using | > characters: A-Z, a-z, and some symbols. | | And what about \'a style accent notation? Those are a slightly-abbreviated version of the TeX notation, supported by abc2mtex and abc2ps. What other abc tools implem

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:17:57AM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: > > "Richard" == Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Richard> Umm. Even if you "only" write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, > Richard> Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented > Richa

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Richard" == Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Umm. Even if you "only" write in Spanish, French, German, Danish, Richard> Norwegian, Swedish ... you're going to want non-127 accented Richard> characters. If you don't write lyrics you'll want them for a tune

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:34:03AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: > > > And what about \'a style accent notation? > > obviously, I've added a section that deals with it! :-) Is there a list anywhere of which programs recognise which of these sequences ?

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:25:46AM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: > > > In the draft, I didn't mention codepages, iso and > > some such. I'm sure 95% of ABC users would not > > understand what it's all about. > > Probably; but the software packages that

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: > And what about \'a style accent notation? obviously, I've added a section that deals with it! :-) Ciao, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. - Linux System Manager Universita' di Verona (Italy), Facolta' di Scienze MM. FF. NN. Ca' Vignal II, Stra

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-03 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote: > In the draft, I didn't mention codepages, iso and > some such. I'm sure 95% of ABC users would not > understand what it's all about. Probably; but the software packages that write ABC should specify the codepage in a standardized way, unless the defa

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: > The ABC standard itself should make it possible to > specify the code page in which the text inside the ABC > tune is coded. It is probably safe to assume iso8859-1 > (Latin-1) as default, if nothing is specified by the > user. This way the user could also

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I. Oppenheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: > >> For syntax (e.g., everything that isn't "text", stick to stricty 7-bit >> ASCII characters. No accents, no other funny stuff. Just straight >> 7-bit ASCII. > >Agreed. > >Bernard Hi

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, Buddha Buck wrote: > For syntax (e.g., everything that isn't "text", stick to stricty 7-bit > ASCII characters. No accents, no other funny stuff. Just straight > 7-bit ASCII. Agreed. Bernard Hill wrote: > That's a strictly American view. There are 2 > important characters

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I. Oppenheim wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: >> >> >>>I suspect that the only things the abc standard has >>>to worry about, as far as applications on different >>>platforms go, is to do with specification o

Re: [abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread Buddha Buck
I. Oppenheim wrote: On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: I suspect that the only things the abc standard has to worry about, as far as applications on different platforms go, is to do with specification of text fonts The actual font type to be used is a typical issues for the stylesheet meta

[abcusers] codepages

2003-07-02 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 2 Jul 2003, David Webber wrote: > I suspect that the only things the abc standard has > to worry about, as far as applications on different > platforms go, is to do with specification of text > fonts The actual font type to be used is a typical issues for the stylesheet meta standard. >