Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-27 Thread Frank Nordberg
(Sorry, I'm late joining this discussion - christmas vacation, you know.) Jeff Szuhay wrote: ... The rule of thumb for printed music is that the copyright lasts for 50 years after the composer's death. 70 years, actually. Some international council (can't be bothered to remember its name)

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-27 Thread John Chambers
Karl Dallas writes: | I didn't realise I was that easy to find! :-) I was startled to read in | one newsgroup a couple of years ago that I was dead! But that rumour's | been much exaggerated [(c) Samuel Clemens]! ... Jack Campin wrote: | Ursula Le Guin came up with a far-ahead-of-her-time idea in "

RE: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-27 Thread Karl Dallas
02 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] music copyrights > One of the problems still to be solved is the instability of email > addresses. If someone has your tune and 10 years from now wants to > contact you about it, will the email address work? Probably not, if > it&

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-24 Thread Jack Campin
> One of the problems still to be solved is the instability of email > addresses. If someone has your tune and 10 years from now wants to > contact you about it, will the email address work? Probably not, if > it's through a commercial ISP. Karl Dallas and I share an inestimable advantage for th

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-24 Thread John Chambers
Karl Dallas writes: | As an interesting sidelight, I use ABC primarily as a composition tool | on my Palm-compatible Treo PDA. If I were to distribute my tunes in ABC | format, anyone transcribing them into conventional staff notation might | well have a right in law to claim copyright. So I better

RE: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Phil Taylor
>That's really exciting. Any idea when we can begin to see Bronson in ABC >format? There are some songs available for download already. Just a zip file containing about 80 abcs at the moment. Lots more to come, and lots of issues to settle about format etc. Read the discussion on the forum for

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Jon Freeman
Phil Taylor wrote: > FWIW, I got to that site via a link from Princeton University Press's site, > while looking for information on the copyright status of Bronson's > Traditional Tunes of the Child Ballads. (It's out of press, but still > copyright. There's a re-publication planned in a couple

RE: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Karl Dallas
bject: Re: [abcusers] music copyrights Bill Taffe wrote: >I'd like to accept this summary as authoritative but since anybody can put >anything up on a website, I'm usually a bit reluctant to trust website >information without some type of independent corroboration or other evid

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Phil Taylor
Bill Taffe wrote: >I'd like to accept this summary as authoritative but since anybody can put >anything up on a website, I'm usually a bit reluctant to trust website >information without some type of independent corroboration or other evidence >of the credibility of the site. Very wise. FWIW, I

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread John Chambers
Rick writes: | On Thursday 19 December 2002 05:49 am, Karl Dallas wrote: | > There is a special problem with regard to copyrights of | > traditional music. [...] | | The funny thing is the way these things apply when filtered | through the international treaties. | | Sometime back in the 1980's (I

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Buddha Buck
Rick Miller wrote: Sometime back in the 1980's (I think), Sir Paul McCartney took advantage of some "special problems" in the British Copyright law to claim the well-known traditional song, "Happy Birthday". He then began demanding money for performances of "his" song in the United States,

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Bill Taffe
> | on 12/18/02 7:20 PM, Phil Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > | > | > It's a bit more complicated than that. > | > Try here: > | > http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm > I don't want to sound like a skeptic, but does anyone know if this website is credible? Who is Lolly Gasaway, the auth

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-20 Thread Rick Miller
On Thursday 19 December 2002 05:49 am, Karl Dallas wrote: > There is a special problem with regard to copyrights of > traditional music. [...] The funny thing is the way these things apply when filtered through the international treaties. Sometime back in the 1980's (I think), Sir Paul McCartney

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-19 Thread Jack Campin
>> Is there a FAQ that discusses copyright issues? No, and the topic tends to be sharkbait. I just discovered the Grove encyclopaedia has quite a good discussion of this. >> I would like to share/trade the tunes I collect, but most come from >> old books (not necessarily public domain). > The r

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-19 Thread John Chambers
| on 12/18/02 7:20 PM, Phil Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | > It's a bit more complicated than that. | > Try here: | > http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm That's a useful summary; I've bookmarked it. tglaab writes: | The book or collection is the protected work, the tunes themselves ar

RE: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-19 Thread Karl Dallas
Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] music copyrights Travis Glaab wrote: >on 12/18/02 7:20 PM, Phil Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> It's a bit more complicated than that. >> >> Try here: >> >> http://w

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-19 Thread Phil Taylor
Travis Glaab wrote: >on 12/18/02 7:20 PM, Phil Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> It's a bit more complicated than that. >> >> Try here: >> >> http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm > > >O.K. That applies to original work, correct? > >What about traditional or folk songs that are first colle

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-18 Thread Travis Glaab
on 12/18/02 7:20 PM, Phil Taylor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's a bit more complicated than that. > > Try here: > > http://www.unc.edu/~unclng/public-d.htm O.K. That applies to original work, correct? What about traditional or folk songs that are first collected and then published, for

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-18 Thread Phil Taylor
Jeff Szuhay wrote: >On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 03:45 pm, Travis Glaab wrote: > >> Is there a FAQ that discusses copyright issues? I would like to >> share/trade >> the tunes I collect, but most come from old books(not necessarily >> public >> domain). > >The rule of thumb for printed musi

Re: [abcusers] music copyrights

2002-12-18 Thread Jeff Szuhay
On Wednesday, December 18, 2002, at 03:45 pm, Travis Glaab wrote: Is there a FAQ that discusses copyright issues? I would like to share/trade the tunes I collect, but most come from old books(not necessarily public domain). The rule of thumb for printed music is that the copyright lasts for