It's all very facinating ... looking back the years ahead will be even
more interesting!
In 1989, when I had been working for about 19 years at Tata Steel, my
Company decided to import from the American Printing House for the Blind,
Louisville, Ky, U S A, a hardware screen reader called the
Hi Harish Sir - The style of your narration is really
excellent. I knew that you write well, but I was
remote from the guess that you can write so good.
Thank you for your letters. Yours, Shadab Husain
The sin which makes you sad repentent is liked better
by the lord than the good deed which
Hi Rohit
Certainly, that goes by default, smile. It is a win, win situation for one
and all. It is a constant, community driven education for all the members.
Harish
Harish.
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From: Dr. Rohit Trivedi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday,
I remember there was a team of two researchers. Ms. Anuradha and Mr. Desai
who worked with him all of them worked from super computer research centre
of IISC
Rohit
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From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 19,
Access india is also an important step if you write about the history of
computer education
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From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind
Hello all
When Microsoft came up with its Windows, the access technology providers looked
at it with much scepticism. It was based on graphics and the screen readers
were helpless on it.
It was also the time when Object oriented programme paradign was taking roots.
dBase 5 andFoxpro
Hello all
Today I'll deal with the effectiveness of computer education. This would also
touch on the suggestion of Subramani, of using, the old screen readers.
During the good DOS days, there was a huge demand for programmers and those who
were savy in it. So, the emphasis was on software
Hello Harish,
I knew of your vast experience. But I never imagined that you are such a
veteran. Belated congratulations to you! I am already 45. I regret I am so
late in touching a pc.
Best regards,
Amiyo.
Cell: +91-9433464329
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From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Subramani
Certainly not, I still have DOS running on my other system which runs Win98
on it.
DOS apps do run in the MsDOS box of WINx systems. Sometimes legacy apps
need to be tweeked up. So, it needs to be kept going.
Harish.
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From: Subramani L [EMAIL
Hello all
Thanks for the interest in my story. I think I shall put in different parts.
This is part 2.
Thankfully I did recall the name of the developer of the look alike of Mimic
synthesizer. He is Prof. M.P. Srinivasan. I would call him the pioneer of
access technology in India. Not only
yes sir,
you are my roll model too
keep the good work
harish sir,
congratulation
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From: Sudhir R (NeSTIT) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for blind in india
Yes you are right about tweaking legacy stuff. In a recent conference by
Microsoft Research India, I heard a Pakistani scientist, Umar Saif from
Lahore University of Management Sciences speak about using a network
layer (which was used in the early part of internet development) to
by-pass ISP's
Come on Harish its time you told the whole story with all the difficulties
and the technology used.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.
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From: Suhas Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
yes, it is true, Harish was starting computer training for BGFI, way
back in 1987.
there after other NGO's started.
At 08:43 AM 12/18/2007, you wrote:
mahendra,nafisa and harish will join me in saying that probably
blind graduates forum of india is the pioneering organisation in
initiating
Dear Harish bhai,
Your story is indeed inspiring for ordinary mortals like us who keep cribbing
these days even with easy and relatively cheap access to sophisticated
assistive technology devices. Please continue the narration.
As my technology guru who had taught me the basics of internet
Interesting stuff Harish, what a journey? For someone who started
straight with Windows 95 and JAWS, this sounds like Charles Babbage or
even Darwin kind of stuff!
By the way, what ever has happened to DOS Hal? Is it in the museum?
Subramani
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From: [EMAIL
Dear Harish,
Your story is very interesting and useful and do continue this. I thought to
add something to this. I worked in CMC Ltd. for about 18 months during 1980
and 1982. I was involved in system design and there was no access technology
at all. I used to do this orally with the help of a
Dear Harish
Do continue writing, as its a great inspiring story.
Also adds to our knowledge.
Best Wishes
Sushmeetha
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From: Harish Kotian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] history of
Yesterday I replied to Suhas's mail but looks like it got lost in Cyber space.
Yes thats true v first started at BGFI. And v r a witness to Harish's struggle.
Harish, I and others also struggled on our own to migrate from DOS to Windows
helping each other learning how to get around with
yes you are right
still many blind person are there charging 1000 to 1500 for installing jaws
any sujjestion how to stop them
even for talks installation also they are charging
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From: Vetrivel Adhimoolam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent:
Hello
On this topic, I took to software development in83. A year or 2 later, We at
Blind graduate's forrum of India started computer literacy course at Kamla
Metha school for the blind, Bombay. Arround 87 Indian Guild of the
Handicapped in colobration with Tata Institute of Fundamental research
The Blind Relief Association Delhi also started computers in April 1996 for
adults. At that time screen reading software was used talks, for DOS based
application. Now we are also teaching to our school students as wel as to
the adults. Oure school students are also taking computers as a subject
I started using DOS based JAWS from 1989 along with an external speech
synthesizer called Votrax. I imported JAWS and Votrax in late 1988 from U.S.
I continued to use this till 1995, when multimedia was made available. I
migrated to the use of JAWS for Windows version 2,3,4,5,6 and now 8. Also,
Worth doing a technology story on you. Fantastic.
Subramani
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K
Ramkrishna
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:49 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] history of computer education for
In continuation with the conversation,
After evaluating various other screen readers for Windows. I had purchased
JAWS version3.1 in 1999.
I learnt Word, Excel, Internet Outlook Express on my own.
And in April 2000 started an Institute in the name of Voice Vision.
Our first student Mr.
mahendra,nafisa and harish will join me in saying that probably blind graduates
forum of india is the pioneering organisation in initiating computer trainig
for the blindi n india.way back in 1987 the BGFI conductedweekend training
sessions in Smt Kamala mehta school for blind girls at dadar
mahendra,nafisa and harish will join me in saying that probably blind graduates
forum of india is the pioneering organisation in initiating computer trainig
for the blindin india.way back in 1987 the BGFI weekend training sessions in
Smt Kamala mehta school for blind girls at dadar mumbai
Samarthanam , Matruchaya and NAB started computer education in Bangalore. You
could write to them for more details. In Chennai, NIVH and Ability foundation
have computer traning centers. You should not only discuss about English
computer education but also regional language education. IITM and
That's indeed correct. But the crucial point is though, very few
organizations have played a major role in making visually challenged mostly
to be independent users by effectively teaching them basic Windows and some
other softwares. Some of such organizations even went a step ahead in
Hello,
I think, Computer was used by the vlind people in the early nineties in
India. As far as I heard, K. Ramkrishna was one of the early users. Harish
kotian also used the DOS-based tiny talk in the nineties. As regards
Kolkata, NAB started here a small venture in 1992 or 1993. But it did not
Well I took training in NAB delhi in May 1996, and I think NAB delhi started
it in 1995 or 1994, I am sure it started in or before 1995
Regards
Dinesh Kaushal
blog at
dineshkaushal.blogspot.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K
I think that's correct. Also I have to say that NAB Delhi played a crucial
role in identifying and prioritizing appropriate screen reading softwares
for visually challenged in India. Say for example the hole transition from
MS das to Windows based screen readers like JAWS. So computer education
sir,
thank you, very much for your information but can any body help me in getting
the full detailed history about the computer education for the blind in india.
vimal dengla
mob. 9414244549.
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We at Arushi organised the firrst workshop to train the blind in the use of
computer in collaboration with Indian Institute of Science. This workshop
was followed by another in 1995. CAB Computer Assistance for the Blind and
TALKS synths were in these programs. We started training the blind in
dear friends,
please tell me the details about the computer education for the blind, when was
it started and who played the main role in starting the computer education in
India. please send me the complete history of the computer education of the
blind in India.
you can send the reply to my
Dear Vimal,
I may not be able to tell you the entire story of computer education for the
blind in India. But, I would like to mention that the Indian Association for
the Visually Handicap (IAVH) in Mumbai, started the first such venture in
our country in November 1997. The project was funded
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