Re: [Ace] call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Mohit Sethi M
Hi Michael, I guess the question you are asking is: what is the benefit of adding the overhead of EAP. For EAP-TLS, you could directly use TLS. For EAP-pwd (which is a PAKE) one could use any PAKE without the EAP encapsulation overhead? Is your concern only in the context of IoT or do you think

Re: [Ace] [EXTERNAL] Re: call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Seitz Ludwig
I’d like to second the question Mohit assumes Michael is asking: What is the benefit, in the context of IoT, to add the overhead of EAP to say TLS? /Ludwig From: Ace On Behalf Of Mohit Sethi M Sent: den 22 januari 2021 15:37 To: Michael Richardson ; Ace Wg Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Ace] call f

Re: [Ace] call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Michael Richardson
Mohit Sethi M wrote: > Is your concern only in the context of IoT or do you think in general > we are better off using protocols directly without the EAP framework > overhead? EAP is designed to be used within a protocol, to interact with AAA infrastructure. Use within 802.1X, and

Re: [Ace] call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Dan Garcia Carrillo
Hi Michael, El 21/01/2021 a las 16:26, Michael Richardson escribió: I reviewed the document before, and my concerns were not really answered. I can not understand what the applicability is. Did you check the last version of the use case? The use case is a bit more ellaborate than the initia

Re: [Ace] [EXTERNAL] Re: call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Dan Garcia
Hi Ludwig, Basically, to bring the features that EAP has into IoT. Such as: - Well known protocol thas provides flexible authentication with diffrent methods and counting. - It integrates well with AAA. - It has a standard and very well known Key Management Framework. With regards to the o

Re: [Ace] call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Dan Garcia Carrillo
Hi Michael, I hope the last email answered your questions. Best Regards, Dan. El 22/01/2021 a las 17:38, Michael Richardson escribió: Mohit Sethi M wrote: > Is your concern only in the context of IoT or do you think in general > we are better off using protocols directly without th

Re: [Ace] call for adoption for draft-marin-ace-wg-coap-eap

2021-01-22 Thread Michael Richardson
Dan Garcia Carrillo wrote: > I hope the last email answered your questions. Are you talking about this answer: > - Well known protocol thas provides flexible authentication with diffrent > methods and counting. > - It integrates well with AAA. > - It has a standard and very well known Key