Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-02-12 Thread Roman Danyliw
[mailto:kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:30 PM To: Roman Danyliw Cc: Richard Barnes ; John Mattsson ; secdispa...@ietf.org; Francesca Palombini ; ace@ietf.org; Göran Selander Subject: Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC If I’m reading it correctly, it looks like I will be speaking at RSA

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-02-11 Thread Bret Jordan
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Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-02-11 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
en Moriarty [mailto:kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2019 12:30 PM > To: Göran Selander > Cc: Richard Barnes ; Roman Danyliw ; John > Mattsson ; secdispa...@ietf.org; Francesca > Palombini ; ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC >

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-02-11 Thread Roman Danyliw
PM To: Göran Selander Cc: Richard Barnes ; Roman Danyliw ; John Mattsson ; secdispa...@ietf.org; Francesca Palombini ; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC Will there be an interim for this topic? Thank you, Kathleen On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:15 PM Kathleen Moriarty

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-02-04 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Will there be an interim for this topic? Thank you, Kathleen On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:15 PM Kathleen Moriarty < kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the very helpful message, Goran. A couple of comments inline. > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:31 AM Göran Selander < > goran.sela

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-24 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Thanks for the very helpful message, Goran. A couple of comments inline. On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:31 AM Göran Selander wrote: > Hi Richard, Roman, all > > > > Thanks for kind welcome and for progressing the discussion. Apologies for > a long email. > > > > *From: *Richard Barnes > > > > Summ

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-24 Thread Göran Selander
Hi Ben, I replied to some of your comments in my previous mail to the list. Additional comments inline. On 2019-01-18, 18:27, "Benjamin Kaduk" wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:54:58AM -0500, Richard Barnes wrote: > Let me provide some additional context. When the chairs and ADs dis

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-24 Thread Göran Selander
Hi Richard, Roman, all Thanks for kind welcome and for progressing the discussion. Apologies for a long email. From: Richard Barnes Summing up where I believe the conversation stands now, it seems like what folks are asking for is either: 1. An analysis that shows that EDHOC is equival

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-23 Thread Richard Barnes
> From: Ace [mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Kaduk > > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 12:27 PM > > To: Richard Barnes > > Cc: secdispa...@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC > > > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:54:58AM -0500, Ri

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-22 Thread Roman Danyliw
> -Original Message- > From: Ace [mailto:ace-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Kaduk > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 12:27 PM > To: Richard Barnes > Cc: secdispa...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:54:58

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-18 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:54:58AM -0500, Richard Barnes wrote: > Let me provide some additional context. When the chairs and ADs discussed > this in BKK, it seemed pretty clear that EDHOC is not within the current > charter of ACE — after all, ACE is targeted at authentication and > authorizat

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-18 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Sorry, I thought it was a continuation of a private thread that may also benefit from transparency and additional input. Thank you, Kathleen Sent from my mobile device > On Jan 18, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > Not sure what you mean, Kathleen. This is a public mailing list :

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-18 Thread Richard Barnes
Not sure what you mean, Kathleen. This is a public mailing list :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 12:06 PM Kathleen Moriarty < kathleen.moriarty.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can that be a public thread? It really should be. > > Sent from my mobile device > > > On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Richard Barnes

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-18 Thread Kathleen Moriarty
Can that be a public thread? It really should be. Sent from my mobile device > On Jan 18, 2019, at 11:54 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > Let me provide some additional context. When the chairs and ADs discussed > this in BKK, it seemed pretty clear that EDHOC is not within the current > chart

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-18 Thread Richard Barnes
Let me provide some additional context. When the chairs and ADs discussed this in BKK, it seemed pretty clear that EDHOC is not within the current charter of ACE — after all, ACE is targeted at authentication and authorization, not key exchange. Since ACE would need to recharter to accept this

Re: [Ace] [Secdispatch] EDHOC

2019-01-03 Thread Göran Selander
Hi Kathleen, Good question. Thanks for bringing continuity to this almost 2 years long offline discussion. Indeed, lack of comparison with other protocols and formal verification were at the time the arguments for not following up the in-room consensus with an email confirmation. And, as you no