Re: Installing PA (mer) on Nexus 7

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.09.2013 18:58, Matthias Raives wrote: I dont recall anyone saying this, but thanks for confirming my suspicions. Do you guys have an estimate on when PA will be ready for the 2013 nexus 7? Answer: When someone made the adaptation. This is a community effort: Adaptations happen if someon

Re: Active Digest, Vol 30, Issue 21

2013-09-05 Thread Kyriakos
t; > y Nexus 7 is the 32GB 2013 model. > > >>> > > > >>> > (On a related note, would I be better off trying to install > > >>> > Ubuntu/Kubuntu on my device and then install PA from there?) > > >>> > &g

Re: Plasma Active (4) is awesome, and I know that ;)

2013-09-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, September 05, 2013 17:39:40 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, September 5, 2013 17:11:24 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > I guess I'm more of a classical "usability" guy than a "user experience > > guy" in the sense that I focus more on reducing frustration and problems > > to a minimum

Re: Plasma Active (4) is awesome, and I know that ;)

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 17:11:24 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > I guess I'm more of a classical "usability" guy than a "user experience > guy" in the sense that I focus more on reducing frustration and problems > to a minimum and this has HUGE value. it’s helped the current software become much

Re: Active Digest, Vol 30, Issue 21

2013-09-05 Thread Daniel Kreuter
7/ > > >>> > , and m > > >>> > y Nexus 7 is the 32GB 2013 model. > > >>> > > > >>> > (On a related note, would I be better off trying to install > > >>> > Ubuntu/Kubuntu on my device and then install PA from there?) &g

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.09.2013 17:05, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: It's not my call, but it isn't yours, either. Yes, Thomas, it is my call in this case. We all provide input, even across boundaries of expertise, but this is not a democracy. It isn’t a dictatorship, either. It is a participation based meritocracy wit

Re: Installing PA (mer) on Nexus 7

2013-09-05 Thread Matthias Raives
I ​t seems all of the tutorials (including that one) have the same (or nearly identical) instructions​. I'm strongly suspecting it has to do with the fact that I'm using the 2013 Nexus 7, but if anyone could confirm this, that would be great. On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Daniel Kreuter wrote

Plasma Active (4) is awesome, and I know that ;)

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, sorry for coming across as being too negative regarding Plasma Active (4). I know that Plasma Active has loads of great things going for it (why would I still work on it if that wasn't the case?), and I want people to get excited about it, to spread the word and everything. That's w

Re: Installing PA (mer) on Nexus 7

2013-09-05 Thread Matthias Raives
I dont recall anyone saying this, but thanks for confirming my suspicions. Do you guys have an estimate on when PA will be ready for the 2013 nexus 7? On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Daniel Kreuter wrote: > As already said, the 2013 model has different hardware so a new adaptation > of mer will

Re: What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 16:37:29 Marco Martin wrote: > so reading document formats, local storage, tagging files, advantages of a > client side pim app, playing media files... groupware (email / calendaring), viewing office documents, reading eBooks and PDFs are all very important things t

Re: Installing PA (mer) on Nexus 7

2013-09-05 Thread Daniel Kreuter
As already said, the 2013 model has different hardware so a new adaptation of mer will be needed to support this device. Cheers Am 05.09.2013 um 18:46 schrieb Matthias Raives : > I​t seems all of the tutorials (including that one) have the same (or nearly > identical) instructions​. I'm stron

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 14:38:40 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 05.09.2013 13:30, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > so what do we do? wait until there are only tasks that a majority of > > random > > test subjects do well on? > > Do you think the tasks for the test were picked randomly? No, and that

Re: What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
> > ... and synching the resulting or consumed data things across devices of > > different nature. :) > > Not just synching: Synching _without_ using a cloud that sits in the > USA, with built-in NSA backdoor. That's a huge advantage over all major > competitors. That is what I am doing for a whi

Re: Last things for release

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Symons
On Thursday, September 05, 2013 11:59 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 05 September 2013, Carl Symons wrote: > > > needs to be added to the wiki if it hasn't been already. I will do it > > > this evening. > > > > done. > > > > There is a bit of confusing information about the basysKom download >

Re: What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, September 05, 2013 17:07:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, September 5, 2013 16:37:29 Marco Martin wrote: > > so reading document formats, local storage, tagging files, advantages of a > > client side pim app, playing media files... > > groupware (email / calendaring), viewing o

Re: What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 17:27:26 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday, September 05, 2013 17:07:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Thursday, September 5, 2013 16:37:29 Marco Martin wrote: > > > so reading document formats, local storage, tagging files, advantages of > > > a > > > client side p

Re: What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.09.2013 17:27, Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Thursday, September 05, 2013 17:07:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday, September 5, 2013 16:37:29 Marco Martin wrote: so reading document formats, local storage, tagging files, advantages of a client side pim app, playing media files... groupw

Re: What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 05 September 2013, Carl Symons wrote: > Hello Plasma Activists, > > Today is Release Day, and we are finalizing the announcement that will > appear on The Dot (dot.kde.org) > > In the discussion was the following interchange: > > Aaron Seigo: > "what I do wish was in the article was

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
> so is this for everybody? of course not > is perfect? of course not, as noted android 1.0 was quite utterly far from > perfection as well > Is for who isn't afraid to try new things and stumble in unexpected stuff, Not afraid? There are a lot of people like me, which are happy to test things

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Symons
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:22:42 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: >> My suggestion: >> "Plasma Active is a user interface from the KDE community intended for >> tablets. It can be customized to work on smartphones, settop boxes, >> smart TVs, an

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 05 September 2013, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > I know that's not the way it works in FOSS: We release early versions > into the public to get feedback from a wide range of people. That's > absolutely okay, but calling it a "polished product" instead of an early > version still does not mak

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Symons
We are not going to sort this out by the end of PA4 Release Day. I think that the Dot story Thomas, please don't shut up. You are making valid points as you have done consistently for a long time. I learn a lot from what you bring to light. The downside of a commitment to self-expression is that i

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, September 05, 2013 13:30:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > I don't mean to say that we did bad work, because we didn't. We did > > great work, but we still have more great work to do before we have a > > "polished product". PA4 is great, but still very "rough" in a whole lot > > of ways. >

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I see myself as auser who has worked about nearly 40 years with computers in a middle position. I think it very important to have someone who strongly insist on removing bugs and poiting out usability problems, especially when there are usabillity- tests. Thank you Thomas for that. On the other

What Plasma Active 4 offers

2013-09-05 Thread Carl Symons
Hello Plasma Activists, Today is Release Day, and we are finalizing the announcement that will appear on The Dot (dot.kde.org) In the discussion was the following interchange: Aaron Seigo: "what I do wish was in the article was a list of things Plasma Active comes with (touch-friendly groupware

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Bogdan Cristea
On 09/05/2013 02:38 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: On 05.09.2013 13:30, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so what do we do? wait until there are only tasks that a majority of random test subjects do well on? Do you think the tasks for the test were picked randomly? Most of the tasks in the test are essentia

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.09.2013 13:30, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so what do we do? wait until there are only tasks that a majority of random test subjects do well on? Do you think the tasks for the test were picked randomly? Most of the tasks in the test are essential for working with what sets Plasma Active apart

[Active] [Bug 322798] Run plasma-device fail which is compiled from source

2013-09-05 Thread flashyan83
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322798 --- Comment #1 from flashya...@gmail.com --- Can't reproduce this bug.Maybe solved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Active mailing list Active@kde.org https://m

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 12:57:49 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 05.09.2013 12:26, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > But if you give it to some ordinary consumers (even with an introduction > of key features, without that they're totally lost and I have data to > prove that as well) and give them some tas

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.09.2013 12:26, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:22:42 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: My suggestion: "Plasma Active is a user interface from the KDE community intended for tablets. It can be customized to work on smartphones, settop boxes, smart TVs, and touch computing devic

Re: Review Request 112533: add ratings in the bodega-client

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
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Review Request 112533: add ratings in the bodega-client

2013-09-05 Thread Giorgos Tsiapaliokas
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/112533/ --- Review request for Bodega. Description --- This patch implements the

Re: Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Thursday, September 5, 2013 11:22:42 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > My suggestion: > "Plasma Active is a user interface from the KDE community intended for > tablets. It can be customized to work on smartphones, settop boxes, > smart TVs, and touch computing devices such as home automation and > in-ve

Re: ownCloud in PA4

2013-09-05 Thread Bogdan Cristea
On Thu 05 Sep 2013 11:47:26 AM CEST, Bogdan Cristea wrote: On 09/05/2013 11:29 AM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: I didn't find the widget in the Widgets section after installing owncloud-client. Is this something that should be installed separately or has a different name ? I looked it up in virtualbox

Re: Last things for release

2013-09-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 05 September 2013, Carl Symons wrote: > > needs to be added to the wiki if it hasn't been already. I will do it > > this evening. > > done. > > There is a bit of confusing information about the basysKom download center. > The latest iso there is from September 1, and some of the links

Re: Last things for release

2013-09-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 05 September 2013, Carl Symons wrote: > On Wednesday, September 04, 2013 20:09 Marco Martin wrote: > > Hi all, > > So, tomorrow is the day we should release pa4. > > * an image can be found here: > > http://makeplaylive.com/~notmart/plasma-active-4-i586.iso > > needs to be added to the

Re: ownCloud in PA4

2013-09-05 Thread Bogdan Cristea
On 09/05/2013 11:29 AM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: I didn't find the widget in the Widgets section after installing owncloud-client. Is this something that should be installed separately or has a different name ? I looked it up in virtualbox a moment ago and it is the widget Synchronisation - onli

Feedback to the Dot story

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Carl, thank you for writing the article! Here are a few comments: Plasma Active is a user interface from the KDE community intended for tablets, smartphones and touch computing devices such as settop boxes, smart TVs, home automation and in-vehicle infotainment. Even though this is not fact

Re: ownCloud in PA4

2013-09-05 Thread Bogdan Cristea
On 09/05/2013 11:09 AM, Wolfgang Romey wrote: As I wrote, there is a widget for owncloud you can add to an activity and see, which folders you have set up for syncing. That was the first i found, before finding owncloud in settings. Wolfgang ___ Act

Re: ownCloud in PA4

2013-09-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
As I wrote, there is a widget for owncloud you can add to an activity and see, which folders you have set up for syncing. That was the first i found, before finding owncloud in settings. Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Romey Anhänge bitte nur in offenen Formaten wie z.B. die openoffice-Formate Diese em

Re: Last things for release

2013-09-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.09.2013 06:14, Carl Symons wrote: There is a bit of confusing information about the basysKom download center. The latest iso there is from September 1, and some of the links are broke. Would be good to have some sort of checksum on plasma-active-4-i586.iso as the instructions suggest usin

Re: ownCloud in PA4

2013-09-05 Thread Bogdan Cristea
On 09/04/2013 06:27 PM, Carl Symons wrote: On Wednesday, September 04, 2013 17:17 Bogdan Cristea wrote: On Wed 04 Sep 2013 04:43:16 PM CEST, Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Tuesday, September 03, 2013 18:42:02 Bogdan Cristea wrote: Thank you for this tip. It seems to me that owncloud is not yet fun