RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-20 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Al - we are designing a forest with regional domains (don't ask!) and one region has suggested it needs to split from this forest since elevating rights in any regional domain from DA to EA (forest wide) is 'simple

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-19 Thread neil.ruston
to appear joe :) Many thanks to all. neil From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeSent: 17 September 2006 16:04To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Oh expect that. Locking down rarely, or at least rarely in my

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-17 Thread Paul Williams
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Thanks Paul., Joe's been there and done it... LOL - so have I several time before

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-17 Thread Paul Williams
PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Elevating priveledges from DA to EA (or from physical DC access to EA) is simple Is this physical access to a DC in the root domain or physical access

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-17 Thread Paul Williams
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Kevin, FWIW - as others are stating, assuming you know what you are doing, it is *simple* and painless so long assuming that you are a DA of any domain in the forest and have access to the console of a GC. There are many exploits

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-17 Thread joe
/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:28 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA DAs got nothing to do with it. It makes

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-17 Thread joe
://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 10:25 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA It doesn't matter what domain

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-17 Thread joe
: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Lucky you : ) I'm in an environment where we're doing this now, and I'm not happy with how its being done (I think we can be even more secure ;-), which means I've accidently volunteered to re-look at it all

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-16 Thread Brian Desmond
:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Hi All I wanted to weigh in with two comments. 1) Elevating priveledges from DA to EA (or from physical DC access to EA) is simple

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-16 Thread Brian Desmond
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA I am the type that argues that 3-5 EA/DA folksis good for any size org. Showing that the large companies with hundreds of thousands of seats can accomplish

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-16 Thread Al Mulnick
Replication is certainly a good reason to separate. Not a common one however from what I've seen. African continentmight be in a similar boat for some international companies. There are some other reasons as well, but they have been very far and few between from my experience. I can't talk to the

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-16 Thread James_Day
] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Hi All I wanted to weigh in with two comments. 1) Elevating priveledges from DA to EA (or from physical DC

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread neil.ruston
: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Can you reword? I'm not sure I clearly understand the question. FWIW, going from DA to EA is a matter of adding one's id to the EA group. DA's have that right in the root domain of the forest (DA's of the root domain have that right). Editing etc

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
know HOW, it is as easy as taking candy from a baby jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 09:36To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Williams
it... --Paul - Original Message - From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Al - we are designing a forest with regional domains (don't

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread Al Mulnick
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Al - we are designing a forest with regional domains (don't ask!) and one region has suggested it needs to split from this forest since

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread Matt Hargraves
there and done it... --Paul - Original Message - From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Al - we are designing a forest

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread neil.ruston
it... --Paul - Original Message - From: Almeida Pinto, Jorge de To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Al - we are designing a forest with regional domains (don't

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread James_Day
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Can you reword? I'm not sure I clearly understand the question. FWIW, going from DA to EA is a matter of adding one's id to the EA group. DA's have that right in the root domain of the forest (DA's

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread Kevin Brunson
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 12:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Hi All I wanted to weigh in with two comments. 1) Elevating priveledges from DA to EA (or from

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread joe
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BrunsonSent: Friday, September 15, 2006 2:03 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS02-001.mspx discusses some elevation of privilege attacks

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread Bernard, Aric
be done with rudimentary knowledge, native tools, and no coding or scripting. Aric -Original Message- From: Kevin Brunson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: 9/15/06 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA http

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-15 Thread joe
Friday, September 15, 2006 8:48 AM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA Al - we are designing a forest with regional domains (don't ask!) and one region has suggested it needs to split from this forest since elevating rights in any regional domain fro

Re: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-14 Thread Al Mulnick
Can you reword? I'm not sure I clearly understand the question. FWIW, going from DA to EA is a matter of adding one's id to the EA group. DA's have that right in the root domain of the forest (DA's of the root domain have that right). Editing etc. is not necessary. Nor are key-loggers etc. If

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-14 Thread Brian Desmond
Title: Elevating privileges from DA to EA Oh its easier than you think go look at the ACLs on some objects and think about what the various system accounts run as over the network on the DCs. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL

RE: [ActiveDir] Elevating privileges from DA to EA

2006-09-14 Thread joe
Title: Elevating privileges from DA to EA Simple is a relative term but yes, there are mechanisms that could be and aretermed simple. No I don't think people shouldn't be sharing details even offline. If someonecannot come up with a method on their own it doesn't mean someone else who is