Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-28 Thread David Wheeler
On Dec 27, 2004, at 9:58 PM, Stas Bekman wrote: I think all you need to do is to write an equivalent of WriteMakefile (and some other bits). The rest of the stuff in it, is a painful exercise of overriding ExtUtils::MakeMaker MY:: methods. You make it sound so appealing. I can't wait! But serious

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Stas Bekman
David Wheeler wrote: On Dec 27, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Stas Bekman wrote: You mean Apache::TestMB. Yeah, that ole thing. :-) I know someone who's name is David who can easily write a patch for this. That bastard is too lazy to work on it. ;-) Where is the bucket with cold water? wait, it's full of sno

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread David Wheeler
On Dec 27, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Stas Bekman wrote: You mean Apache::TestMB. Yeah, that ole thing. :-) I know someone who's name is David who can easily write a patch for this. David, it should really be: ModPerl::MB and Apache::TestMB should use it. Of course ModPerl::MB doesn't exist yet. That b

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Stas Bekman
Stas Bekman wrote: David Wheeler wrote: On Dec 27, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Geoffrey Young wrote: the only kink here would be third-party CPAN modules for only mp2 - those are _required_ to use ModPerl::MM::WriteMakefile (which knows to install into Apache2/ if that's where mp2 was installed) instead of

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Stas Bekman
David Wheeler wrote: On Dec 27, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Geoffrey Young wrote: the only kink here would be third-party CPAN modules for only mp2 - those are _required_ to use ModPerl::MM::WriteMakefile (which knows to install into Apache2/ if that's where mp2 was installed) instead of ExtUtils::MakeMaker:

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread David Wheeler
On Dec 27, 2004, at 7:36 AM, Geoffrey Young wrote: the only kink here would be third-party CPAN modules for only mp2 - those are _required_ to use ModPerl::MM::WriteMakefile (which knows to install into Apache2/ if that's where mp2 was installed) instead of ExtUtils::MakeMaker::WriteMakefile. wh

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Geoffrey Young
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>"Stas" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Stas> My submission to /.org made it to the Apache section: > Stas> > Stas> It's about asking to help testing the mp2-RCs. > > Oh goo

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Geoffrey Young
> I *want* modperl to succeed. I *want* modperl2 to succeed. good :) > I believe > Stas has made two significant errors in this process, however: > > 1) expecting people to not have modperl1 for a significant time >following the modperl2 release, like everyone would "upgrade >tomorrow

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: I don't think we expect CPAN to grok Apache2, just the local filesystem and @INC. but you're right, the entire perldoc/CPAN/@INC thing is a real issue. don't forget that we supply mp2doc which works around this issue. what I think really needs to happen is that there should b

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Geoffrey" == Geoffrey Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Geoffrey> I can't say how disappointed I am in this post, and your Geoffrey> behavior in general here. the fact is that this is a Geoffrey> complex issue, for developers and users alike, but all you Geoffrey> have done to help is thro

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-26 Thread Dan Brian
Stas> My submission to /.org made it to the Apache section: Stas> Stas> It's about asking to help testing the mp2-RCs. Oh good. Another place to post my "use Apache2 considered harmful" rant...

Re: Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-26 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Stas" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stas> My submission to /.org made it to the Apache section: Stas> Stas> It's about asking to help testing the mp2-RCs. Oh good. Another place to post my "use Apache2 c

Slashdot | Help Test mod_perl 2 Release Candidates

2004-12-26 Thread Stas Bekman
My submission to /.org made it to the Apache section: It's about asking to help testing the mp2-RCs. -- __ Stas BekmanJAm_pH --> Just Another mod_