Re: [AFMUG] Drop cable plowing cost

2018-11-07 Thread Chris Fabien
For a FTTH install we charge $249 and include the first 125ft, $0.50 per foot beyond that. The cable is about 0.13 a foot so that covers our costs on most drops unless things get really tricky. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 12:15 PM Adam Moffett Do you guys charge to plow in a drop cable? If so, how much

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread David M
unless google says its true :) On 11/7/2018 6:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Doncha know, you can't believe a flippin' thing on Facebook... -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wasps Th

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread chuck
Doncha know, you can't believe a flippin' thing on Facebook... -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wasps The employee that reported it is our tower guy so he's not chicken and has worke

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread chuck
You know, I have had the same experience. The ones from the ground are mean. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 3:56 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wasps It depends on what species, plus most of us don’t distinguish between wasps, bees, hornet

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Trey Scarborough
If you want decent audio quality I would go with a Barix instreamer/extremer. I have used these for radio stations and other high quality media streams. https://www.barix.com/audio-products/instreamer-family/ On 11/7/2018 4:21 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Ive got the perfect solution, but I cant fi

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread Jay Weekley
The employee that reported it is our tower guy so he's not chicken and has worked around wasps before but apparently this was biblical. Advice from Facebook (Jim Patient) says that they are mating. Dave wrote: Thats what my tower guy does. He tells me dont look them in the eye and they wont b

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread Dave
Thats what my tower guy does. He tells me dont look them in the eye and they wont be tempted lol On 11/7/18 4:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: i like wasps. They are my friends. Tell your guy to befriend them. you cant pet them though, no matter now much you want to. The trick is to just be mindful

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
It depends on what species, plus most of us don’t distinguish between wasps, bees, hornets, etc. I’ve had those things that build paper nests on houses ignore me even as I used an impact driver to lag a J-pipe right next to their nest. On the other hand, I’ve had those things that build nes

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread Vlad Sedov
We've had guys climb through a small cloud of them once (paper wasps I think).. We've caught a few and they all seemed to be male (no stinger). I think there may have been a few females, but they were too busy doing their swarming thing, and didn't bother the climbers at all. Vlad On 11/6

Re: [AFMUG] Wasps

2018-11-07 Thread Steve Jones
i like wasps. They are my friends. Tell your guy to befriend them. you cant pet them though, no matter now much you want to. The trick is to just be mindful of where they are so you dont injure them, then just go about your business as you normally would. They wont bug you as long as you dont hurt

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Steve Jones
Ive got the perfect solution, but I cant find the notes. its exactly what you need though. I will look On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:18 AM Nate Burke wrote: > I'm trying to get a monitor speaker off a mixing board to a different > part of a building. 100+ year old construction, a 20" thick brick wa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
You guys shouldn’t have been so mean to David Thake, who has the intern studying microwave transmission through rock. From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 2:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound

Re: [AFMUG] Drop cable plowing cost

2018-11-07 Thread Chuck McCown
No Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > > Including the duct? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > > >> On Nov 7, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> I charge $5/ft for quad 1.25” ducts with my big RT120 plow. So that is a >> realisti

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
There are various studio/wireless audio extenders available. These work like a wireless microphone. Or could even be the combination of an XLR mic transmitter and a receiver. Distance through 'rock' might be a problem... If WiFi and/or network is available, I personally would look at droppin

Re: [AFMUG] Drop cable plowing cost

2018-11-07 Thread Jon Langeler
Including the duct? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Nov 7, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > I charge $5/ft for quad 1.25” ducts with my big RT120 plow. So that is a > realistic upper limit. Depends on what kind of machine and whether you are > doing it ac a pure contra

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
I forgot that the ATA can't auto answer, it would need some way of putting the line on/off hook external to the ATA. A VoIP Phone with audio input jack might be the best way. On 11/7/2018 1:27 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The easiest way would to buy an old phone from a thrift store if you can, un

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Rg402 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > They're a special series of N connectors rated for up to 13 GHz. Could > probably buy new prefab cables from Pasternack. > >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM Nate Burke wrote: >> I think I remember when the Airfib

Re: [AFMUG] Drop cable plowing cost

2018-11-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I charge $5/ft for quad 1.25” ducts with my big RT120 plow. So that is a realistic upper limit. Depends on what kind of machine and whether you are doing it ac a pure contractor, or doing it for yourself at cost, or doing it at just payroll and fuel to minimize the bite. Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Chuck McCown
The easiest way would to buy an old phone from a thrift store if you can, unscrew the caps off of the handset and use the transmitter and receiver wires to interface the audio. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > Unfortunately no cat5 to the soundboard, the

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Mathew Howard
Wasn't Chuck making his own cables for his AF11 antenna adapters? On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 12:19 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Pasternack sells 18 GHz rated test cables meant for use with test > equipment like a spectrum analyzer, TDR, etc. It sounds like he’s talking > about one of those. Not somethin

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wow, they’ve bought a bunch of companies. I didn’t realize they bought ShowMe Cables. And I see KPP, Transtector and Polyphaser on the list. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:58 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 C

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Josh Luthman
https://www.infiniteelectronics.com/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Didn’t the same company that bought L-Com also buy Pasternack? Maybe I’m > remembering wrong. But they may h

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Didn’t the same company that bought L-Com also buy Pasternack? Maybe I’m remembering wrong. But they may have consolidated their sales. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 12:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
Supposedly he went and ask engineering and that is what they told him. He initially tried to put me into an LMR cable with normal N Connectors, and Engineering told him that wouldn't work. On 11/7/2018 12:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think you got unlucky with that rep On 11/7/2018 12:50

Re: [AFMUG] Drop cable plowing cost

2018-11-07 Thread Jason McKemie
I've been including up to 200' in the install price, then $1/ft after that. Curious where others are on this as well. Most customers fall under the 200' mark. On Wednesday, November 7, 2018, Adam Moffett wrote: > Do you guys charge to plow in a drop cable? If so, how much. > > I know someone wh

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Pasternack sells 18 GHz rated test cables meant for use with test equipment like a spectrum analyzer, TDR, etc. It sounds like he’s talking about one of those. Not something you would leave installed out in the sun and rain. I find inconsistent information about N connectors, some say any o

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
I think you got unlucky with that rep On 11/7/2018 12:50 PM, Nate Burke wrote: Good call with Pasternack, a 3' cable will be about $250 (part# PE345) and is not outdoor rated.  He claimed that no coax at that frequency is outdoor rated.  I wonder if the blue UBNT Cables with the dish are...

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
Good call with Pasternack, a 3' cable will be about $250 (part# PE345) and is not outdoor rated. He claimed that no coax at that frequency is outdoor rated. I wonder if the blue UBNT Cables with the dish are On 11/7/2018 11:14 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: They're a special series of N connector

[AFMUG] Drop cable plowing cost

2018-11-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Do you guys charge to plow in a drop cable?  If so, how much. I know someone who's getting a 1/4 mile drop plowed up to his house by a competitor and they're charging him about $600.  That works out to $.50/foot. My initial thought was I'd do 300' for free and then $1/foot.  Then I'd be at a

Re: [AFMUG] Custom AF11 Coax

2018-11-07 Thread Eric Kuhnke
They're a special series of N connectors rated for up to 13 GHz. Could probably buy new prefab cables from Pasternack. On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:18 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I think I remember when the Airfibers first came out, there was some > discussion over the use of N Connectors for 11ghz. We'

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
Unfortunately no cat5 to the soundboard, the aforementioned wall problem, so I'm limited to WIFI. I should be able to put a phone on the end of a WIFI Adapter though. Can you somehow wire an Analog Telephone plug so that it would accept an RCA Jack input? Then I could just use an ATA. I fou

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread chuck
If you are not extremely interested in low latency or high quality. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker I would use SIP with auto-answer. Connect a phone

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Bill Prince
If you have cat5 running between the two points, I'd probably opt for audio over IP. Easy peasy, and not very expensive: https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-103597-Audio-Extender-CAT5e/dp/B001HQR1Q2/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=REHYNFRG7Z9KZF3R12X8 bp On 11/7/2018 8:17 AM, N

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I would use SIP with auto-answer. Connect a phone to the sound board and depending on the phone, either custom wire the handset jack or if it has a 3.5mm jack you could use that. Set the phone to auto answer and you could dial in from anywhere. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 11:18 AM Nate Burke wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread chuck
I am certainly not a pro audio guy by I have a fairly nice wireless mic system for when I do video recordings. It has a 1000' range in air. Audio quality is very good. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:17 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Wi

[AFMUG] OT: Wireless Sound System monitor speaker

2018-11-07 Thread Nate Burke
I'm trying to get a monitor speaker off a mixing board to a different part of a building. 100+ year old construction, a 20" thick brick wall between the mixing board and the endpoint, and a cable run of probably 400-500' involving a lot of fishing of wires. I'm trying to come up with a way to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread chuck
I can think of three causes: 1)Electrostatic induced hum. Probably not the problem due to low impedances of speaker circuits, but can easily be cured by shielding the cable. 2)Power line magnetically induced hum. can be cured by using a third wire next to the speaker wires that is gro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread castarritt
Might be worth temporarily moving the sub next to the receiver and testing with a short cable to make sure the noise is from the cable run. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:31 AM Bill Prince wrote: > So it's a 60 Hz hum? I'd probably try to figure out a way to shield the > speaker cable. > > bp > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/7/18 4:40 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: I ran regular cable between my receiver and amplified subwoofer. Approximately a 70ft run through the house. Avoided running in parallel with the power lines but it is about 6" away from an electrical outlet. No cable plugged into sub, no h

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread Bill Prince
So it's a 60 Hz hum? I'd probably try to figure out a way to shield the speaker cable. bp On 11/7/2018 4:40 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote: I ran regular cable between my receiver and amplified subwoofer.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Have not yet. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:14 AM Cameron Crum wrote: > Tried a ferrite bead? > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 6:41 AM can...@believewireless.net < > p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > >> I ran regular cable between my receiver and amplified subwoofer. >> Approximately a 70ft run >> throug

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread Cameron Crum
Tried a ferrite bead? On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 6:41 AM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > I ran regular cable between my receiver and amplified subwoofer. > Approximately a 70ft run > through the house. Avoided running in parallel with the power lines but it > is about

[AFMUG] OT: Powered Subwoofer Hum

2018-11-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
I ran regular cable between my receiver and amplified subwoofer. Approximately a 70ft run through the house. Avoided running in parallel with the power lines but it is about 6" away from an electrical outlet. No cable plugged into sub, no hum. Cable plugged into sub but not into receiver, loud hum