Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread Darren Shea
I have mostly had good luck with fs.com, but in those circumstances where they aren't as compatible as I want, fluxlight.com is pretty good, too. https://www.fluxlight.com/sfp-10g-lr/ From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 11:58

Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

2019-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Phased array lasers? or more properly Optical phased array transmitter... On 05/09/2019 02:19 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: These are the guys the landed a rocket ship on its tail feathers on a tiny barge in open ocean... They can obviously do difficult things. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thurs

Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
These are the guys the landed a rocket ship on its tail feathers on a tiny barge in open ocean... They can obviously do difficult things. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 2:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Real threat I got into a discussion on Quora about this th

Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

2019-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
I think the laser aiming is the least of the problem areas. The satellites will be in a more or less constant position relative to each other and there are probably non-mechanical ways to aim lasers. I, for one, will be impressed to see how many the "dozens" they

Re: [AFMUG] Real threat

2019-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I got into a discussion on Quora about this the other day. Their FCC filing says they'll use 2000mhz of bandwidth for the Satellite to User Terminal downlink.  However many satellites they have, they'll be limited to 2000mhz per geographic area.  If we generously assume 10 bits/hz then that's

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread Richard Strittmatter
https://www.fs.com/products/11591.html We use a bunch of these.. Dell Coded, Intel coded, generic.. doesn't seem to matter, they all work fine for us. We've also used their bidi, and cwdm ones with no issues. Richard From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
We had a customer have an SFP fail after we put a visual reg light on its input. I don’t think that should have killed it. He was questioning whether or not the fiber was working. We put on the red light and he later swapped out the SFP and things started working. From: Jason McKemie Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread Jason McKemie
I've not had any issues with their jumpers. Their outdoor pigtails, on the other hand, have never worked at all for me. It's like they're making them with the wrong fiber type. On Thursday, May 9, 2019, wrote: > I have had problems with fs.com jumpers lately. Starting to worry about > using any

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
I have had problems with fs.com jumpers lately. Starting to worry about using any of their stuff. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:35 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+ Which one? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread SmarterBroadband
Which one? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Richard Strittmatter Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:01 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+ Fs.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sen

Re: [AFMUG] KentuckyWired fiber mess and "Old Bub" the mule

2019-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
How to make an ass out of the gov't... On 05/09/2019 10:36 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: image.png "I decided to give Old Bub a call. He’s the mule who spent a couple years trudging up and down Eastern Kentucky mountains hauling spools of fiber optic cables that would eventually haul parts of ru

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
It wasn't for that use when I was using it but where we spent time you tried everything. That was the only thing that worked against everything. On Thu, May 9, 2019, 10:11 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I thought you guys were kidding about some off-label use of an Avon skin > lotion, but apparently thi

Re: [AFMUG] My grandson Noah Jaime.

2019-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes it is wonderful...I take my grandkids on safe projects and let them get dirty...I pay them and they learn...my oldest grandson can install camera systems by himself now ... On Thu, May 9, 2019, 9:13 AM wrote: > Isn’t it wonderful and exciting to see your offspring do so well! > You should be

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
The margins were because of a lucky circumstance. Selling to the gov't is highly regulated with very specific margins. Great way to limit your growth. Because the oil companies decided to start doing shot analysis in the field instead of recording and bringing back to the office they neede

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread Richard Strittmatter
Fs.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 11:58 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+ Hi We are using CCR 1036-8G-2S+, what Single Mode LR Fiber 10G SFP+ compatible modules are you

[AFMUG] Mikrotik Fiber SFP+

2019-05-09 Thread SmarterBroadband
Hi We are using CCR 1036-8G-2S+, what Single Mode LR Fiber 10G SFP+ compatible modules are you using successfully? Thanks Adam -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
Rolm was an interesting beast. They started out selling ruggedized DG gear (Rugged Nova was one of their first products). They took a basic DG minicomputer, and put it into a mil-spec package. None of the components actually came from DG, they built it ground up to take a beating at incredible tem

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Phone switches and office systems. First decent voice mail, callback, etc. etc. etc. Always battling with Ma Bell. But I was on the original ROLM side which was Mil-Spec computers and was hired as Systems engineering and to try to get them into doing a UNIX port which was bashing my head a

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Collecting is part of why I think so many businesses want to go to a subscription model.. On 05/09/2019 09:41 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, I have repeated many times that I have never regretted firing someone after the fact. Almost always it is, I should have fired them a long time ago. Co

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
ROLM, have not thought about them for a very long time. They had ISDN stuff, right? -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 10:31 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season They say success kills more businesses... I say it is getting

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
Yep, I have repeated many times that I have never regretted firing someone after the fact. Almost always it is, I should have fired them a long time ago. Collecting is simple. Just have to be very persistent. You don't need to be rude, disrespectful or strident. Just persistent. Inform them you

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Robert Andrews
They say success kills more businesses... I say it is getting the $$ from people that does. I know of about 5 people who set up businesses, had fairly good success selling and totally failed at collecting. I used to work in sales engineering at some big companies ( IBM, ROLM ) and I couldn

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
No longer Avon. We were first married. She used to lug her stuff around the small town where I was the “phone man”. I knew absolutely every person in that town, every dwelling, every dog. I gave her a nice list so she wasn’t totally cold calling. She enjoyed it until it came time to collect

Re: [AFMUG] My grandson Noah Jaime.

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
Isn’t it wonderful and exciting to see your offspring do so well! You should be proud. I am the first person in my family to graduate from college and it took me about 5 colleges and 35 years to do it. Most of my kids are graduates or are working on it. I have two with graduate degrees. Howe

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
No longer married, or no longer an Avon lady? (OK, now that is reminding me of the lame old joke that starts “it won’t be long until we’re married”.) From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tis

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought you guys were kidding about some off-label use of an Avon skin lotion, but apparently this is for real. If you look up the active ingredient in Wikipedia it lists other repellants including one I think from the UK called Smidge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icaridin#Commercial_produ

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread chuck
I used to be married to one. From: Daniel White Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season They call it out right in the description too: https://www.avon.com/product/skin-so-soft-bug-guard-plus-ir3535-expedition-spf-30-fam

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Daniel White
They call it out right in the description too: https://www.avon.com/product/skin-so-soft-bug-guard-plus-ir3535-expedition-spf-30-family-size-pump-spray-47861?rrec=false Find yourself an Avon lady Chuck :-) Daniel White Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations di

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Both were fun. I can relate to the one with the flies. Sent from my iPhone > On May 8, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > That’s great. > > Reminds me of another Canadian animation which believe it or not we checked > out from the public library when our kids were little: > https://www

Re: [AFMUG] OT tis the season

2019-05-09 Thread dave
Nuthin like the smell of avon in the morning LOL! On 5/8/19 8:58 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Avon skin so soft. No idea if they still sell it but when I was in the USMC it repelled everything from jungles, swamps, and dessert. On Wed, May 8, 2019, 7:32 PM Chuck McCown > w