Re: [AFMUG] Future FTTH bandwidth usage standard

2019-08-09 Thread Frank Befera
Here are some historical numbers Chris. I think it is possible to extrapolate future growth from this curve in percentages per year. Historical Global Internet Traffic Data, 1984 through 2014 YearTraffic (GB/mo) 1984 15 1985 33 1986 65 1987 128 1988 252 1989 498 1990

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread David Coudron
We have had pretty good luck fan cooling using relays. Seems very reliable, but of course will only cool to ambient temp and you have to be open to the outside. If you need a fully closed and cooled enclosure you probably will have to buy a good enclosure and purchase the cooling separately fr

Re: [AFMUG] Future FTTH bandwidth usage standard

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Here's a study from Cisco forecasting 26% worldwide compound annual growth in IP traffic through 2022, and 21% for North America: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/service-provider/visual-networking-index-vni/white-paper-c11-741490.html#_Toc532256789 I'm currently seeing 3mbps

Re: [AFMUG] Chart recorder set up to prove stability

2019-08-09 Thread Brian Webster
Any other 900 MHz stuff around the end that is dropping? Maybe set up the frequency hopping to a different segment of the band and not the whole band. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...

Re: [AFMUG] Future FTTH bandwidth usage standard

2019-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe the trend is accurate, but I don’t think you can do network planning based on GB/mo because what matters is peak traffic levels. It used to be peak traffic was Monday morning when everyone got to work and opened their email. Now it’s 8-9pm when everyone is streaming video. The other

Re: [AFMUG] Future FTTH bandwidth usage standard

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
That's my exact assumption. I agree that mbps at peak time is the thing that really matters, but nobody is apparently studying that. I go by the assumption that GB and mbps correlate because it's all I've got. On 8/9/2019 10:04 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Perhaps this doesn’t matter because monthly d

Re: [AFMUG] Future FTTH bandwidth usage standard

2019-08-09 Thread Nate Burke
From what I see, throwing more bandwidth doesn't really change the video streaming. So that makes sense what the FTTH Guys say. Streams happily sit around 5-7mb/stream regardless of the available bandwidth. I've been testing this out, running multiple video streams, between 4k and 1080 TV's,

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Bury it in the ground? I have a customer with a house that is mostly buried in the ground, and I think adobe houses similarly use the thermal mass of the bricks to average out t he daytime and nighttime temperatures. There have been news reports recently about advances in radiative cooling t

Re: [AFMUG] Chart recorder set up to prove stability

2019-08-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes...I have considering that...they have an MDS Orbit 900 but it's licensed from 928.xxx and 952. MHz ...I am thinking of blocking 926-928MHz. On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 7:04 AM Brian Webster wrote: > Any other 900 MHz stuff around the end that is dropping? Maybe set up the > frequency hopping t

Re: [AFMUG] Future FTTH bandwidth usage standard

2019-08-09 Thread Mathew Howard
4K content is still comparatively rare (at least at high enough bit rates to really matter), that will probably eventually change, but at this point it doesn't surprise me that the actual usage on FTTH isn't that much different than what WISPs are seeing. Yeah, there are the people that "need" to h

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread chuck
I know that peltier devices are not worth it. There are air to air heat exchangers but in my experience you do the following in the following order: 1.. “Satellite White” paint. This does more than anything else you will do. More than a sun shade, more than anything. 2.. Force air ve

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread chuck
I learned years ago that my backbone does not go up when I increase speed packages. Back 15 years ago, when we were facing heavy competitive pressures, I doubled everyone from 128 to 256 and then to 512 kbps without increasing prices. Made customers happy. Did not increase my costs. That was

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Strange, my recent experience does not agree with yours or Nate’s. I find that if I increase customer speed plans, usage goes up, and nobody notices. And new customers that sign up for a 10M plan peg at 10M during Netflix hour, customers that sign up for 15M or 25M same thing. I was expecting

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread chuck
I too have a hard time finding something to watch until I get suck in youtube hell watching large forgings being hammered on or large engines being started. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 9:23 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controll

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Try Stranger Things on Netflix if you haven't already.  Super well done show. On 8/9/2019 11:23 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Strange, my recent experience does not agree with yours or Nate’s.  I find that if I increase customer speed plans, usage goes up, and nobody notices.  And new customers that

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Robert
Or Scott Manley explaining the latest Space device or the saturn V engine startup.. On 8/9/19 8:27 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I too have a hard time finding something to watch until I get suck in youtube hell watching large forgings being hammered on or large engines being started. *From:* Ke

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
That's an interesting thought about burying it.  It would be cool, but a dry vault is heavy though.  It's needs to be sealed against ground water and that makes it buoyant, so they pour a huge slab and bolt it down to stop it floating out of the ground.  I've heard a story of an underground fue

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Even a concrete slab on the ground will stay cool if it’s in the shade. I used to have a dog who had that figured out. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 10:37 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure That's an interestin

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread chuck
Yeah, they totally threw away all the other kids plot line. Odd Russian plot with a hoover dam sized installation that was built secretly. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 9:31 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure Try Stranger Things

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I haven't finished season 3, but I was wondering how they built that.  I wondered if it was part of the existing DoE facility where the first portal was and maybe they just made a tunnel to it. On 8/9/2019 12:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah, they totally threw away all the other kids plot li

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread Bill Prince
I've seen a gunite pool pop out of the ground when people empty the water from it. Kind of like a concrete boat. bp On 8/9/2019 8:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: That's an interesting thought about burying it.  It would be cool, bu

Re: [AFMUG] Small climate controlled enclosure

2019-08-09 Thread chuck
I was having a pool put in once and wondered about the check valve in the drain that went nowhere. It was to allow ground water to flow back into the pool if the water level got too low to prevent this. It was a gunite pool too. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, August 9, 2019 1:05 PM To: a

Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

2019-08-09 Thread Chris Fabien
I'm lucky to not be sensitive to posion ivy but I've always recommended rubbing alcohol to remove. Even handed the guys commscope alcohol wipes that come with splice cases in a pinch. Seems to do the trick. On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 9:44 PM Steve Jones wrote: > I always thought mineral spirits tasted