Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
You are 100% correct this is what my attorney said. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:56 PM wrote: > If it is aerial, it is probably on poles you do not own. > > If you are paying for a pole attachment, then you are covered by the > easement of the pole owner. > I would simply ignore the situation.

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread chuck
Yes and if the parcel in question does not have an easement recorded there is no easement. Sometimes best not to know. From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 1:01 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property Somewhere

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread chuck
If it is aerial, it is probably on poles you do not own. If you are paying for a pole attachment, then you are covered by the easement of the pole owner. I would simply ignore the situation. If a landowner brings it up tell they you are in the public utility ROW. Have them prove you

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Brian Webster
Somewhere there should be a recorded written document that is attached to the property history for the parcel. Maps do not cover the written legal description and details. There are many types of easements. Nothing of the public rules for easements apply on private land. The easement should

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Tim Hardy
Just so we’re comparing apples to apples, Aviat’s values are typical. Guaranteed values over time are 2 dB less power and 2 dB less threshold, or 4 dB less system gain. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:05 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > Just to clarify on the aviat advanced replacement, that does not come >

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
[image: image.png] On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:01 PM Brian Webster wrote: > You have to check the easement terms the utility company has over said > property. If it is worded such that they only have it for their company and > their specific utility use then you need your own. If it has more

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Bill Prince
+1. There are all kinds of easements, and different rules depending. bp On 1/15/2020 11:00 AM, Brian Webster wrote: You have to check the easement terms the utility company has over said

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Darin Steffl
Just to clarify on the aviat advanced replacement, that does not come standard? I have access to their pricing tool and a 2 year standard warranty is included but it does not include advanced replacement unless you upgrade to that option. It's very affordable from what I saw. We are likely going

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Brian Webster
You have to check the easement terms the utility company has over said property. If it is worded such that they only have it for their company and their specific utility use then you need your own. If it has more general wording that it includes communications/telephone easement as well then

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Mike Hammett
That's probably state-specific. I've been operating that since we're a CLEC and a CLEC is to be treated no differently than the incumbent, that we get access to all of the same public easements they have. The specific easement may (or may not) provide more information on it. I'm actually

[AFMUG] Utility Easement over private property

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
So we have run into a situation where our aerial fiber (Put in from previous ownership) is over a utility easement over private property, do we need to have some type of agreement with land owner or is this considered a Public ROW? Its zoned as an easement and citys water lines run through it as

Re: [AFMUG] Schematic Drawings

2020-01-15 Thread dave via AF
+1000 I still use it both on windows and my linux console Also, there is KI-Cad for the more intuitive folks On 1/15/20 12:29 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Matt, I've used https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Dia?action=show=Dia in the past. Older software, but did what I needed.

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, xmt power looks pretty impressive on the Aviat radios. It also looks like the receive sensitivity is a couple db better than the PTP820C at any given modulation. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:24 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > 25.5 dBm xmt power at 4096QAM is pretty impressive. I remember several >

Re: [AFMUG] Schematic Drawings

2020-01-15 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Matt, I've used https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Apps/Dia?action=show=Dia in the past. Older software, but did what I needed. -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 12:11:24 PM,

[AFMUG] Steel Snap on Raceway like what Cable uses in MDUs

2020-01-15 Thread Carl Peterson
I'm looking for a snap on raceway like what cable companies use. i.e clips on the wall that drps get zip tied to then the metal cover (kind of trapezoidal in shape) clips over it. Who makes that or something like that? -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD

Re: [AFMUG] Schematic Drawings

2020-01-15 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Same question, need for DC plan/cabinet diagraming at the moment. I think I’m just going to bite the bullet and add Visio Pro to my monthly Microsoft account. I am most familiar with Visio. I think that’s around $15 a month to add that and have access/download the desktop software. Otherwise

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
25.5 dBm xmt power at 4096QAM is pretty impressive. I remember several years ago some talk of chipsets would use some sort of predistortion technique to cancel out the distortion in the power amp, is that what is going on in these radios? I don’t remember who the chip vendor was. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
and we found that the WTM4200 has 5.5db more system gain then the SIAE AP2 at 4096QAM which had better system gain then some of the other radios on the market. SIAE questions if Aviat is reporting correct numbers but I don't think they are incorrect either Even if Aviat's numbers are a bit

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Tim Hardy
Yes, as I mentioned previously the system gain of the WTM 4200 at 80 MHz bandwidth, 4096 QAM is 77.5 dBm (threshold is -52.0 dBm and tx power is 25.5 dBm). This provides 7.5 dB more fade margin than the AF-11 at 80 MHz bandwidth, 1024 QAM (system gain 70.5 dBm, threshold -52.5 dBm and tx power

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
That’s what I thought the OP was saying, 4 x 80 MHz channels on a dual core radio, capacity probably 2.5+ Gbps full duplex. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios Yeah, if

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I know these aren’t WiFi radios. I wasn’t born yesterday, and this isn’t my first rodeo licensed link. The “why you have such a hard time believing” is quite simple. I’ve seen links not run at the full modulation the radios are capable of. Sometimes full modulation one direction and less

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Based on the required signal levels listed in Aviat's spec sheets, it shouldn't be that hard to achieve 4096QAM. I don't remember what the numbers were off hand, but it was well within what I would expect on a real world link. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:59 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Just to be

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, if I'm understanding correctly, ACCP on the 820C is just running both cores on the same polarity. What Aviat and Bridgewave are doing is a bit different... they can do 2 80mhz channels per core, so a single dual core radio can do a total of 4 80mhz channels, and a single core radio can do 2

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
I'm not sure why you have such a hard time believing that 4096 QAM is a thing that works. And yes, All of our links that are capable of it are indeed holding that QAM rate. Our links are 4-7 miles. It's not magic, design the link high RSL for the distance and they will do exactly what they are

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Jason McKemie
I believe the Navigator is around the same price. They both claim to do double the throughput with stacked subcarriers / A2C. I do like the single unit sparing on the Bridgewave. On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, Adair Winter wrote: > Aviat WTM4200 dual core with 2' antennas is just over $11k.

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Joe Novak
AlfoPlus2 11ghz, 4096QAM @ 23 dBM output power, w/ 3 foot dishes, holding 4096QAM at about 10 miles without issues. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:54 AM Erich Kaiser wrote: > Distance? > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 815-570-3101 > > > > > > On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just to be clear, the links are actually running at 4096QAM? That’s pretty impressive. But is it like saying you own a 250 mph car? It may be true, but you also may not be able to verify it from personal experience. From: AF On Behalf Of Adair Winter Sent: Wednesday, January 15,

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
Distance? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:47 AM Adair Winter wrote: > Hell ya we do, we have three 4096 QAM links running and about to add one > more. > It's the only way to go > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:43 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
Hell ya we do, we have three 4096 QAM links running and about to add one more. It's the only way to go On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:43 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > You have actual links running 4096QAM IRL? > > > > I thought it was more like being able to land a quadruple axel. Once. In > practice.

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
You have actual links running 4096QAM IRL? I thought it was more like being able to land a quadruple axel. Once. In practice. OK, define “land”. Walk away? Able to skate again once the cast comes off? But I have to admit my view of licensed backhaul capacity has evolved as video

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
it's under the 4000 series https://aviatnetworks.com/products/all-outdoor-radio/wtm-4000-outdoor-ip-sdn-radio/ On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:07 AM Erich Kaiser wrote: > Is the 4200 on their website? > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office: 815-570-3101 > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
Is the 4200 on their website? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:06 AM Adair Winter wrote: > SIAE was our radio of choice after a really bad experience with cambium. > Both cambium and siae not having SFP+ ports has

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
SIAE was our radio of choice after a really bad experience with cambium. Both cambium and siae not having SFP+ ports has really hurt us and we won't buy any more radios that don't have them. SIAE is supposed to an AP2 that does have an SFP+ interface but I haven't seen it yet. On Wed, Jan 15,

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
Will give it a look. Sounds very reasonable. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:00 AM Adair Winter wrote: > That's correct. 2 year advanced replacement. I think aviat is working > really hard to get in to the wisp

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
That's correct. 2 year advanced replacement. I think aviat is working really hard to get in to the wisp market with a wisp focused radio platform. while everyone else, is still just doing what they have always done. I like being able to jump on their website and just buy a link from aviat store.

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Josh Baird
And that $11k includes pretty much everything you need, including advanced replacement warranty, SFP's, etc. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adair Winter wrote: > Aviat WTM4200 dual core with 2' antennas is just over $11k. Does 1.4Gb and > has an SFP+ interface. it's my new fave radio > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Adair Winter
Aviat WTM4200 dual core with 2' antennas is just over $11k. Does 1.4Gb and has an SFP+ interface. it's my new fave radio On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:44 AM Erich Kaiser wrote: > HOw much is a fully loaded Aviat link? > > > Erich Kaiser > North Central Tower > er...@northcentraltower.com > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
HOw much is a fully loaded Aviat link? Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 815-570-3101 On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 3:31 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Right… yeah mind f*** the 820c is a dual core radio… the Bridgewave and > Aviat radios that do this are

[AFMUG] FCC'S ENFORCEMENT BUREAU REACHES $1.13 MILLION SETTLEMENT WITH SCRIPPS ON MONITORING OF TV TOWER LIGHTING

2020-01-15 Thread Tim Hardy
FCC'S ENFORCEMENT BUREAU REACHES $1.13 MILLION SETTLEMENT WITH SCRIPPS ON MONITORING OF TV TOWER LIGHTING. by News Release. News Media Contact: Will Wiquist at (202) 418-0509, email: will.wiqu...@fcc.gov . EB. DOC-361864A1.docx

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
I find the Aviat radios easier to configure…but the Cambium/Ceragon is more of a mature platform. Aviat however does 4096QAM. Internet. ​Phone. ​TV. Andreas Wiatowski CEO/Founder Silo 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 | andr...@silo.ca silo.ca From: AF on behalf of Gino Villarini Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Right… yeah mind f*** the 820c is a dual core radio… the Bridgewave and Aviat radios that do this are single core… so less $$$ From: AF on behalf of Erich Kaiser Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 5:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Erich Kaiser
No you can do ACCP on one unit, you just need a combiner that they sell that goes between the dish and radio. Non-Adjacent channels could be an option with two radios but probably would do it with two PTP820S and a combiner. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Licensed radios

2020-01-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Don’t you need an extra radio for this on the 820C? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://gallery.mailchimp.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/2a19bac2-257e-4f73-9295-a89a9c48a166.png]