Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s

2020-08-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
Now that's funny. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:53 PM Steve Jones wrote: > My boss has a guy the goes in front of him laying crisp new 100 dollar > Bill's down for him to walk on so he doesnt sully his shoes walking in the > same path poor people walk on, has a second guy that follows behind with a

Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s

2020-08-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
Don't forget about the few million dollars in upgrades every year. That takes a pretty big chunk of it. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:36 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Because the IRS likes to tax that. I’d rather spend the vaults on the > network and my employees than k

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Six hours? I am not laughing...

2020-08-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
So many funny things. I am so happy to be a part of this group...most of the time. On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 6:15 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Lol.. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 5:11 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> Maybe she will be an Olympic gymnast. >> >> >> >> [image: A person standing in front of a crow

[AFMUG] UBNT sfp+

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
Are UBNT switches fussy about SFPs? I got a couple of generic 10G units from FS but the switches are not talking to each other. Have not checked the fiber yet but thought I would ask this first. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT sfp+

2020-08-25 Thread Adam Moffett
I used FS in our ubnt switches.  I don't have a lot of them, but didn't have a problem. On 8/25/2020 10:50 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Are UBNT switches fussy about SFPs?  I got a couple of generic 10G units from FS but the switches are not talking to each other.  Have not checked the fiber yet

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT sfp+

2020-08-25 Thread Nate Burke
I use FS 10g optics all the time in UBNT Edgepoints, no problems. In rare occurrences, I've had auto negotiation issues. But between Tik CCR and Edgepoints, they've always just worked. On 8/25/2020 9:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I used FS in our ubnt switches. I don't have a lot of them, but

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT sfp+

2020-08-25 Thread Jesse DuPont
I would just force the interfaces on both ends to be 10G full duplex (no auto negotiation).  Jesse DuPont Owner / Network Architect

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT sfp+

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
Not sure we have done any configuration of either end. Just plugged in the fiber and no lights. From: Jesse DuPont Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:03 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT sfp+ I would just force the interfaces on both ends to b

[AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router?

2020-08-25 Thread cgray
What are the standard solutions for providing customer backup power when running an ONT and Router? CyberPower has a whole range of 12V and 48V DC units (https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/telecom/indoor/), but it seems they are usually intended to provide power to only one device. How

[AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
Starting to do customer installs on my new FTTH company. Going with the pre-terminated miniflex/tufflex type of cables. I used to have a nice tool list for installers. Searching my archives but not sure I will find it. So far this is the list: Electric drill Bell hangers bit. .250” Glow rods

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router?

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
They are expensive but you can’t beat Cyberpower. If you use an 844G then it is ont/router/wifi all in one. From: cg...@graytechsoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:34 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router? What are th

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Darin Steffl
Off topic but do you have a website for your new company yet? Curious of your plan speeds and pricing. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:50 PM wrote: > Starting to do customer installs on my new FTTH company. > Going with the pre-terminated miniflex/tufflex type of cables. > > I used to have a nice too

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Drill, Impact gun, and angle grinder which all use the same batteries     (angle grinder might seem dumb, but I end up using it regularly for cutting or shaping almost anything.  It's a universal saw and lock opener) 2 drill batteries charger which can plug into van (one battery lives on charge

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
I do, but it is not live. I don’t want to attract customers. We have more on our plate right now than we can install. 100, 500, 1G $69.69, $99.95, $149.95 $500 install From: Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Instal

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
Good list, thanks. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list Drill, Impact gun, and angle grinder which all use the same batteries (angle grinder might seem dumb, but I end up using it regularly for cutting or s

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
This is how it currently looks now: Installer’s Tool Bag/Belt Electric drill Phillips bit for drill Bell hangers bit. .250” Arrow T-18 stapler and staples Markers Zip tie labels Zip ties Screw-in anchors Installer’s Truck - MEL 2 Batteries Charger that can plug into 12V Arrow T-18 St

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router?

2020-08-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Run an ONT with an integrated router on a battery backup? Several models I've bought check these boxes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: cg...@graytechsoftware.com To: "AnimalFarm Mic

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
5’ step ladder From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list This is how it currently looks now: Installer’s Tool Bag/Belt Electric drill Phillips bit for drill Bell hangers bit. .250” Arrow T-18

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
Where do you buy those booger picks? On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:05 PM wrote: > 5’ step ladder > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:49 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list > > This is how it currently looks now: > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Chris Fabien
Takes a 1/2" bit to pass a pre-terminated SC connector, unless you are using the type where you put on the connector shell later. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:14 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Where do you buy those booger picks? > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:05 PM wrote: > >> 5’ step ladder >> >> *Fro

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread chuck
I am doing the one they call the “ballistic connector”. Pretty tiny, almost as small as the cable. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list Takes a 1/2" bit to pass a pre-terminated SC connector,

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router?

2020-08-25 Thread cgray
I’m not using Calix in this context, it was just the only documentation I had found regarding the CyberPower hookups. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:55 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Ro

Re: [AFMUG] Customer Battery Backup - FTTH ONT+Router?

2020-08-25 Thread cgray
I do recognize the integrated units only need one source of power; but in the circumstance where the ONT and Router are not integrated, what are those sorts of operators offering for backup power options? From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 2:57 PM To:

[AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
If a customer says their Firestick is clocking, WTF does that mean? Do they mean rebuffering? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-25 Thread Nate Burke
Do they mean clocking? Cooking? Like it's really hot Clicking? Like it's making a sound Clucking? They should throw the chicken back outside. On 8/25/2020 5:17 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: If a customer says their Firestick is clocking, WTF does that mean? Do they mean rebuffering? -- AF m

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
PowerLink 😊 24v to 48v converter cable, and if you use cambium a cambum cable. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikroti

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wife knocked it out of the park

2020-08-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
There should be an AFMUG cookbook. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Never heard them called that, but I assume that’s the same as a spudger. Keep it with your dikes and your butt set. https://www.sandman.com/secret.html I’ve always had punch tools both 66 and 110, but never carried a spudger. When removing wires from punch blocks, I just yanked them, or us

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread TJ Trout
For fiber installs? On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 3:27 PM Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: > PowerLink 😊 24v to 48v converter cable, and if you use cambium a cambum > cable. > > > > > > *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* > > > *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, > MTCINE, MTCSE,

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Back when I installed 1A2 key telephones, each extension had a 25 pair line cord. So I had to run 25 pair to an amphenol connector block each time. Took some skill to punch down 50 wires and leave slack for maintenance and make it look pretty. I used a spudger to make it look perfect. Sent f

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Wife knocked it out of the park

2020-08-25 Thread Steve Jones
ive been looking for pho On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 8:24 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > There should be an AFMUG cookbook. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.af

Re: [AFMUG] Firestick clocking?

2020-08-25 Thread Steve Utick
Buffering. I think there is a little clock on the screen that spins when it's buffering. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:18 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > If a customer says their Firestick is clocking, WTF does that mean? Do > they mean rebuffering? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmu