I have decided I needed to get on the VM train. I know, I am only 15 years
behind. Honestly, till now I haven't had a compelling reason.
I want something that will at least do some monitoring of VM's, backups,
snapshots, etc. Managed upgrading would be great but not as big a priority
for me (at le
Proxmox is a good start for a newb. I use Vmware in a cluster but is terribly
expensive. Xen is nice too but you'll need to learn about paravirtual vs HVM
and its complications.
Out of the box though for someone just getting started Proxmox is very nice. If
I hadn't gone the VMware route I pro
Proxmox for sure. I've used Proxmox for 10+ years and VMWare for probably 8
years. I'm phasing out VMWare in favor of Proxmox.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Lewis Bergman"
To: "A
I never hear anyone say they are using Hyper-V, I assume that is not even in
the running unless you are a hardcore Microsoft shop or want to host in the
Azure cloud?
From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 9:40 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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I'm a big fan of proxmox.
It works well and the price is right (free).
Jim
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Original message
From: Lewis Bergman
Date: 9/27/20 9:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [
I know of a couple people using Hyper-V. I just don't trust Microsoft to be my
hypervisor. That may be ildeserved, but it is what it is.
Proxmox is based on Debian, so quite stable and supports both VMs and
containers.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Interne
VMs are a great way to go depending on the job(s) you need to do.
As it happens a lot of jobs (e.g. DNS) are not particularly
compute intensive, so it's a great way to stretch resources. We
find we can run 3 or 4 virtual machines on each physical machine.
We used VM
Thanks guys. Proxmox didn't even come up in my searches. I'll look into it.
If anyone really knows the space and wouldn't mind spending 15 minutes
discussing what we need I would appreciate it.
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 10:21 AM Bill Prince wrote:
> VMs are a great way to go depending on the job(s)
Nothing wrong with Hyper-v, been running it for 3 yrs, no issues. If i
did it over i would probably go with VMWare.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 815-570-3101
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:56 AM Mike Hammett wrote:
> I know of a couple people using Hype
I played around with Hyper-V Server a bit and wasn't real thrilled with it.
That was a couple years ago now though.
I switched to XCP-ng about a year ago after Citrix crippled XenServer.
Installed it right over the top on a couple nodes and had zero issues. All
the bells and whistles back without
Three or four? I run... 20 - 30 VMs per host.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:21:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Vi
Huh, then you might want to consider just using Docker…
From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 5:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual machines
Three or four? I run... 20 - 30 VMs per host.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computin
I've never bought into Docker at all. It just seemed like an extra layer of
crap compared to manually setting up LXC containers in Proxmox.
I also fully admit that I may not know what I'm talking about.
Some are Windows, some are Linux, some have to be VMs to get software support,
etc.
Containers like Docker (or Kubernetes) are a much more efficient
use of resources. Many of the resources consumed by VMs get
replicated when you are running many of them. With containers, the
OS part of the VMs gets shared. If you need to run different kinds
of VM
Right, I get containers. I use LXC containers in Proxmox. I have only a couple
uses of Docker and no Kubernetes.
Using Docker or Kubernetes would mean an additional pane of glass that I don't
have time for.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
I wasn't aware that Proxmox could do containers (I thought it was
a pure VM environment). If so, then there is not a lot of
difference between Docker, or Kubernetes. Kubernetes is oriented
toward control of an entire cluster of physical machines.
bp
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*nods* Proxmox has done OpenVZ or LXC containers for... 10 - 15 years.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:24:27 PM
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