Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

Apparently regular steel and stainless steel both “rust”. But stainless forms a thin stable protective layer of chromium oxide, while regular steel turns to unstable iron oxide which just grows and grows. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-doesnt-stainless-stee/ From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

Certainly not stronger and twice the expense. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 8:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust I would assume this wasn't a slip of the tongue. Just surprised that anyone would build a tower out of sta

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

I would assume this wasn't a slip of the tongue. Just surprised that anyone would build a tower out of stainless steel. Chuck would likely know but I am pretty sure stainless is softer than regular steel. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 8:24 AM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > We

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

I assume Robert will respond with the correct info but he did specifically say it was attached to the house in the original post. I read it to say that there was a window with an opening of 3x3'. I assume this means that there aren't any doors directly between the solarium and the house which

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

I dunno, if I was going to start a new business that was conducive to being in PR and it was going to make a lot of money, they don’t have federal income tax. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:38 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Defi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

You should be a State. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 7:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election Its non-bidding … so we continue to be a colony… Fro

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

I meant JASMOC (used to use SMOP in the old programming days) bp On 11/4/2020 1:58 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: But if the bathroom and solarium are separate by 3 feet, much more carpentry required. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:39 PM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

JASMAC (Just A Small Matter of Carpentry) bp On 11/4/2020 1:58 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: But if the bathroom and solarium are separate by 3 feet, much more carpentry required. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:39 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

But if the bathroom and solarium are separate by 3 feet, much more carpentry required. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:39 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power. I'm talking about making two new holes. Forget abou

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

I'm talking about making two new holes. Forget about the window. bp On 11/4/2020 1:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Sounds like there is just one lower level window and it is not even connected. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:29 PM To: af@af.af

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Sounds like there is just one lower level window and it is not even connected. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:29 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power. You can put in two vents; one as high as you can, and a sec

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

You can put in two vents; one as high as you can, and a second as low as you can. Hot solarium air will rise and move into the colder space on the other side, while at the same time drawing air in from the bottom vent. This is as passive as you can get. If you want to augment it, you could put

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Something like this would do the job with a small solar panel. Just hook it up with dryer hose. https://www.mcmaster.com/19665K11/ From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 12:25 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power. The whirlybirds work by letting the ris

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

I had to Google what you all meant by "whirlybirds".  That's a turbine vent.  There are no birds involved, guys. On 11/4/2020 2:25 PM, Robert wrote: The whirlybirds work by letting the rising warm air spin the blades.   I wonder if putting the intake lower in the solarium and the whirlybird h

Re: [AFMUG] aftermarket GPON sfp

Approved offers identical optics for a fraction of the price. The only difference is the sticker and serial number. Same machine spit them out. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM Carl Peterson

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

The whirlybirds work by letting the rising warm air spin the blades.   I wonder if putting the intake lower in the solarium and the whirlybird highest in the cold house would do the same?  The house being colder would be like the outside?  Or does the whirlybird need a breeze blowing by to get

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

That's nice...  I live and die by KISS... On 11/4/20 10:52 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I made a lot of heat pipes when I was working on high bay LEDs. Turns out water is the best.  You can use methanol, ethanol or some of the freons but you will not move more heat. -Original Message- F

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

With any solution where you're moving air, consider how to return cold air from the house back into the solarium.  You don't want negative pressure in there pulling in the outside air.  Maybe use two of the solar fans so you have an in+out. On 11/4/2020 2:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote: if you want

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

if you want to run duct, put a whirlybird vent outside, as long as the intake is in the bathroom and the duct runs through the solarium it will start drafting and likely pull the warm solarium air into the bathroom. similar to a cold smokehouse On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 1:01 PM Brian Webster wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Or something like this solar powered attic fan https://smile.amazon.com/Amtrak-Powerful-Solar-Ventilates-build-up/dp/B01FIH M92G/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=solar+power+attic+fan&qid=1604516333&sr=8- 7 Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: AF [mailto

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Search Amazon or Google for a Sterling engine fan or heat powered fan. The startup temp required might not be low enough for your purpose however. Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sen

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

I made a lot of heat pipes when I was working on high bay LEDs. Turns out water is the best. You can use methanol, ethanol or some of the freons but you will not move more heat. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:41 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Su

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Cool, ( or heat ) That has me thinking the right way, could even build something using one of the R refrigerants that boil much lower temps? I have solar there but don't want to waste power on that if I can do some kind of passive pump. We eventually will have about 7K watts more solar there

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Heat Pipe. It would work a little. Finned tubes from a radiator. Full of water and then drawn down to a vacuum and sealed. The solarium would boil the water and it would flow to the cold area. But the cold area of the tube will have to be higher than the warm end or you will have to have a

Re: [AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

If you're willing to do wiring, a solar panel, charge controller and battery kit will give you reliable power (as long as specced out for the load) and a 12/24V thermostat and fan will get that air moving. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 11:54 AM Robert Andrews wrote: > Hi folks, > I have a solar

[AFMUG] Moving heat without power.

Hi folks, I have a solarium attached to an unheated house and there is a bathroom window about 3x3' between them open. Does anyone have any magic tricks up their sleeves to move the warm solarium heat into the house without using power? The temp difference the other day was 106 in the sola

Re: [AFMUG] aftermarket GPON sfp

Yes. Approved Optics and a few others I could look up if needed. - Not actually approved but the optics are good. I just got a quote from a new vendor at half the AO price. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:35 AM Dev wrote: > Ubnt GPON SFP for the OLT is around $100, but other vendors are 6-7x that > a

[AFMUG] aftermarket GPON sfp

Ubnt GPON SFP for the OLT is around $100, but other vendors are 6-7x that amount. I doubt that means they contain 6-7x the magic pixie dust. Are there third parties that can sell vendor-specific keyed GPON SFP’s like FS does for Cisco/Juniper/whatever for standard SFP’s? -- AF mailing list AF@a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

Its non-bidding … so we continue to be a colony… From: AF Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election My understanding is that it is non-binding. I personally think it might be good for them, but I believe that it w

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

There are different grades of stainless steel. Some of the lower grades can develop some light rust. Also, if the joints were welded, you don't know what material was used for the weld. I would at least cover the rusting parts with zinc chromate. bp On 11/4/2020 6:43 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

I have never heard of a stainless steel tower, must have been custom fabricated? Also never heard of stainless steel rusting. Are the cross members and climbing pegs not stainless? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 8:23 AM To: af@af

[AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

We have a stainless steel tower that’s probably about 30 years old. Good shape. But I noticed some minor rust developing on the surface of some cross members and a few climbing pegs. What’s the best way to stop this and protect the tower? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/

Re: [AFMUG] space junk

Dad loves that show. We'd watch it on PBS every weekend. I didn't get why it was any good until I got older. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 9:33 PM Steve Jones wrote: > > i miss that show > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:23 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> Have to pronounce onion like Justin Wilson, the Cookin’

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

My understanding is that it is non-binding. I personally think it might be good for them, but I believe that it would require a vote of congress. bp On 11/4/2020 5:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Does this mean you will become a stat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

Does this mean you will become a state? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2020, at 2:49 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  > Statehood won with about 55% on yesterday event… > > Gino Villarini > Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

Good to see that statehood won but we're going to be short a few Senators to make that happen over here on the mainland, at least it is looking that way. GA is going to have some of the most expensive Senate runoff races ever. On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:50 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: > As a colon

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

As a colony, We don’t have the benefit of statehood… Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/968060a2-d5a8-4a76-b3b3-cee8c588e646.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.p

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

Statehood won with about 55% on yesterday event… Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/968060a2-d5a8-4a76-b3b3-cee8c588e646.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]