Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
That was the “LENS”. The “CLIP” was their second generation. Kind of like a Stinger, but didn’t couple to the patch and re-radiate, more of a clip-on horn. And it worked with dual polarization. I actually liked it, unlike the 450b mid-gain, it narrowed both the vertical and horizontal beamwi

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Were those the stinger like thing? If so, they were a dielectric lens antenna, cannot imagine a coating helping. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 5, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Any idea what Cambium sprayed inside their CLIPs? I think it was a bronze or > purple color. > > F

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Any idea what Cambium sprayed inside their CLIPs? I think it was a bronze or purple color. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 5:36 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust All the original stingers used arc sp

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread chuck
All the original stingers used arc sprayed zinc on the reflector. Same stuff as hot dipped galvanized. Same stuff as welding or grinding on galvanized steel pipe. We vaporized it. I inhaled tons of it over the years. It doesn’t hurt you but if you get too much you will have a sleepless ni

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just drink some milk, you’ll be fine. https://www.quora.com/Why-do-welders-drink-milk From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust Wear breathing protection when doing any wor

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wear breathing protection when doing any work on galvanized stuff... On Thu, Nov 5, 2020, 9:41 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > The bottom line is, if it’s a Rohn tower, it’s almost certainly galvanized > not stainless. > > > > If there’s some rust on the cross members and step bolts, it’s probably > tha

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

2020-11-05 Thread Bill Prince
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[AFMUG] big COD download Nov. 13

2020-11-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
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Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
The bottom line is, if it’s a Rohn tower, it’s almost certainly galvanized not stainless. If there’s some rust on the cross members and step bolts, it’s probably that people stepping on them wore through the galvanizing? You could remove the rust with a steel brush and spray with cold galva

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread chuck
Brown rust. You can cause it with muriatic acid, but when I have tried to do it in the past, my outcome was not uniform. Maybe it would have been OK with some weathering but it was not aesthetically pleasing initially. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 9:20 AM To: af@af.afm

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Bill Prince
There is also COR-TEN steel, which develops a special protective layer of rust. https://www.corten.com/what-is-corten-steel.html bp On 11/5/2020 8:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: There are multiple kinds of rust.  Som

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fwd: Aliens!!!

2020-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Election overseers from other dimensions. From: Steven Kenney Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 7:28 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fwd: Aliens!!! Inconclusive. Would need better video to be sure. Were they moving around like the behavior of bees darting to and fro?

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread chuck
There are multiple kinds of rust. Some power transmission line towers are rusty on purpose. Red RustHydrated oxide Fe2O3•H2O Yellow Rust Iron oxide-hydroxide FeO(OH)H2O Brown Rust Oxide Fe2O3 (high oxygen/low moisture) Black Rust Iron (II)oxide – Fe3O4 (limited oxygen) I think I have th

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
It’s a metal tower Rhone, and it’s sort of has the patchwork look to it. Which I assumed was stainless but maybe it’s not. > On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > >  > there are some different galvanizing processes. HDG is distinctively > gray and lumpy so I'm sure you would

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Adam Moffett
there are some different galvanizing processes.  HDG is distinctively gray and lumpy so I'm sure you wouldn't mistake that for stainless, but yeah maybe you've got something electro galvanized or similar.  Is this a little TV antenna tower?  Almost every comm tower from 30 years ago would

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fwd: Aliens!!!

2020-11-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Stayed in place for about 10 minutes...then moved...seen by others... trying to get video On Thu, Nov 5, 2020, 7:29 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Inconclusive. Would need better video to be sure. Were they moving around > like the behavior of bees darting to and fro? > > [image: logo]

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fwd: Aliens!!!

2020-11-05 Thread Steven Kenney
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

2020-11-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
Probably one of those grass is greener deals. We have the vote and look at what a mess we have made of it. I live in Texas as you know. If you are in Texas and lean Libretarian or Democrat you only have a say in local elections, not in statewide elections or for the most part even house seats. The

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Lewis Bergman
Surface rust is of absolutely no consequence. I have black iron towers that were constructed 40 years ago that have substantial surface rust. While not pretty, it is structurally insignificant. If it looks more like discoloring than rust, which if the galv is good is what it usually looks like, I w

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Could it be a zinc galvanized steel instead of stainless? I assumed stainless due to the very limited rust. > On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:27 AM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > >  > Ok. So then maybe it’s not an issue. It does just appear to be surface. > >>> On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrot

Re: [AFMUG] Stopping tower rust

2020-11-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
Ok. So then maybe it’s not an issue. It does just appear to be surface. > On Nov 4, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Apparently regular steel and stainless steel both “rust”. But stainless > forms a thin stable protective layer of chromium oxide, while regular steel > turns to un

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Election

2020-11-05 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Its enticing… but at the end of the day.. we don’t have any say on what happens here… imagine your state not having ant representation on Congress… From: AF Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 7:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Definite Political: The Electio