Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
If im reading right, old boy is out of compliance. Be careful on how he asks you to date invoices and get paid up front On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 7:46 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Probably. > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:55 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> Do people

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Throughput in 11GHz

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
They have some more latency than saf, but (as a major saf fanboy this pains me) their pricepoint is worth the hit On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 9:53 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > Yes it's 730+ Mbps full duplex per 80mhz channel. With XPIC, you have two > channels so roughly 1460 Mbps full duplex for the lin

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Throughput in 11GHz

2021-01-19 Thread Darin Steffl
Yes it's 730+ Mbps full duplex per 80mhz channel. With XPIC, you have two channels so roughly 1460 Mbps full duplex for the link. These things rock. We love our WTM4200 On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I think Ken from Aviat just answered

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Throughput in 11GHz

2021-01-19 Thread Josh Baird
Yes - 1.4Gbps. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 10:48 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I think Ken from Aviat just answered my question. It looks like it is > about 1.4 Gbps FDX, so that is what I would expect. > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:35 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> In

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Throughput in 11GHz

2021-01-19 Thread Jason McKemie
I think Ken from Aviat just answered my question. It looks like it is about 1.4 Gbps FDX, so that is what I would expect. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:35 PM Steve Jones wrote: > In what? > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 8:55 PM Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > >> Those of you

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Throughput in 11GHz

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
In what? On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 8:55 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Those of you that have WTM 4200 links deployed in 11GHz, what are you > seeing throughput-wise in an 80MHz XPIC channel? It looks like around > 730mbps each way from what I can tell, but that doesn'

[AFMUG] Aviat Throughput in 11GHz

2021-01-19 Thread Jason McKemie
Those of you that have WTM 4200 links deployed in 11GHz, what are you seeing throughput-wise in an 80MHz XPIC channel? It looks like around 730mbps each way from what I can tell, but that doesn't seem right when I get just north of 400mbps in a single-pol 56MHz channel. -- AF mailing list AF@af.a

Re: [AFMUG] PTZ Camera

2021-01-19 Thread Robert
You might look at Xeoma along with an IP PTZ camera such as Sunba... On 1/19/21 5:05 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: Looking for a PTZ camera that can record to a NVR. Camera will be on different network than the NVR. Not even sure where to start. Looks like some of the NAS server

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Bill Prince
Probably. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:55 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Do people who make laws watch too much csi? > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 6:40 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Downtown, it's not even accurate enough to locate a block. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >

[AFMUG] Summer disconnects/winter reconnects

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
So we maintain about 90 percent recovery on service quality disconnects. We see the majority service quality related disconnects during summer fading, and about 2 year contract later they return in the winter. We have superior customer service, we try to roll trucks same day, dont charge for servic

[AFMUG] PTZ Camera

2021-01-19 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Looking for a PTZ camera that can record to a NVR. Camera will be on different network than the NVR. Not even sure where to start. Looks like some of the NAS servers (ONAP, etc.) may be an option for the NVR. But need a PTZ that is compatible with that and can be at a remote site. -

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
Do people who make laws watch too much csi? On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 6:40 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > Downtown, it's not even accurate enough to locate a block. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Downtown, it's not even accurate enough to locate a block. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 6:09

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.okaloneworker.com/panic-buttons-illinois-chicago/?area=Illinois&utm_source=google&utm_medium=ads&utm_campaign=legislation_il&gclid=CjwKCAiAo5qABhBdEiwAOtGmbt9U6ptdOYXCgXNOXJJyKeFPngei3-Uot7oReD7t24koerP6Z-o-FRoCKCAQAvD_BwE Is indoor GPS even accurate enough to locate a person? On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Nate Burke
If I'm reading some other things I found right, the City of Chicago code that has been in place for 2 years requires the panic button to have GPS, and be able to update it's exact location in real time once activated. On 1/19/2021 6:00 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Depends on who you are tryi

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Depends on who you are trying to protect I guess. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 4:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations this is part of that stupid sexual harrasment training we had to do https://trackbill.com/bill/

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
I suspect he and madigan have a foot in a transponder company, this is the dumbest thing i never knew about. I worked for a few years in hotels, staff rape isnt even really on the radar. Now, banging guests, thats a whole other ballgame... just so you know, just cause a beds made doesnt mean that t

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Erich Kaiser
Good ol' Prickster... On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:53 PM Steve Jones wrote: > > https://www.safetyandhealthmagazine.com/articles/18848-new-illinois-law-requires-panic-buttons-for-hotel-casino-staff-working-alone#:~:text=New%20Illinois%20law%20requires%20panic%20buttons%20for%20hotel%2C%20casino%20

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
this is part of that stupid sexual harrasment training we had to do https://trackbill.com/bill/illinois-senate-bill-75-hotel-casino-employee-safety/1648594/ If I read it right, an on person dongle is sufficient On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 5:40 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > I installed a panic button sys

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.safetyandhealthmagazine.com/articles/18848-new-illinois-law-requires-panic-buttons-for-hotel-casino-staff-working-alone#:~:text=New%20Illinois%20law%20requires%20panic%20buttons%20for%20hotel%2C%20casino%20staff%20working%20alone,-September%206%2C%202019&text=Springfield%2C%20IL%20%E2%8

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Erich Kaiser
15k is nothing for bigiron, most of our line cards we use are between 10-15k/ piece in refurbished market... "You get what you pay for" we have several customers just not wanting to deal with Mikrotik at the edge anymore and going to other vendors (Extreme/Brocade, Juniper, Cisco..). We are movin

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Bill Prince
There's that. but there is also the fact that MT costs so much less that you can give it a rip for your situation & have a functioning system without fear of blowing the budget. If it doesn't work for you, it is a pretty cheap lesson. In fact, relative to Juniper, it is almost a rounding error. --

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
I installed a panic button system for a contractor with several panic buttons in key locations near surveillance camera monitors covering all doors, parking lots and hall ways ..all of the management staff have small remotes they can use to trigger alarm and 100dB klaxon ...we test it every two mon

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
My guideline is if I'm planning on less than 30 gigs, definitely Mikrotik. 30 to probably 50 or 60, either way, depending on what I can find for deals. More than 60, Juniper\Arista\Cisco\whatever. The thresholds for me are mostly centric around what it was cost me to get something else. There

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Nate Burke
I found some regulations that talk about needing to identify the transponder location in the hotel. Our state code I don't think addresses how accurate it needs to be. We're not providing the system, but the hotel owner came to us saying that the guy who is selling him the system wanted to a

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have never regretted buying one of the best of something in a category. For example, I went cheap during the early days on imported oscilloscopes. Finally about 30 years ago I broke down and bought a brand new HP scope. Still works fine, use it all the time. My favorite scope. My wife swe

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I would guess that you have one per room so you can tell where the panic is happening. I would not use wifi for it if I wanted it to work every time. Be better to be UHF I would think. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:39 PM To: Animal Farm Subject

Re: [AFMUG] Adding Aviat Radios to LibreNMS?

2021-01-19 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah - this one is pretty bad. It doesn't help that LibreNMS' polling implementation isn't great, either. If Aviat does fix the issue (they are aware of the problems), all of the things that were mentioned (RSSL, modulation, voltage, etc) are included in the support that I wrote and should work o

Re: [AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Say something like, "So that I can best comply with the new law, can you let me know where I can find that law or what it's name is so I can look it up?". You'll get non-useful answers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

[AFMUG] Hotel Panic Button Regulations

2021-01-19 Thread Nate Burke
We're in Illinois, and provide Internet/WIFI to a hotel. We're being told by the hotel owner that there is a new regulation (we don't know if it's state or federal) that there needs to be a panic button in every room. The guy selling them the system says that it is all WIFI based. 1 device p

Re: [AFMUG] Adding Aviat Radios to LibreNMS?

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
So many vendors have absolutely terrible SNMP stacks. Occam\Calix is another. After enough connections, various part of the DSLAM just stop working, due to running out of memory. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] Adding Aviat Radios to LibreNMS?

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
they just had that emergency update for radios getting killed in the cold if they were monitored or something On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 4:12 PM Josh Baird wrote: > So - I'm the one who added Aviat support to LibreNMS. But, it doesn't > work, because Aviat's current SNMP agent dies and becomes unr

Re: [AFMUG] Adding Aviat Radios to LibreNMS?

2021-01-19 Thread Josh Baird
So - I'm the one who added Aviat support to LibreNMS. But, it doesn't work, because Aviat's current SNMP agent dies and becomes unresponsive after 15 or so consecutive queries. This causes LibreNMS to timeout frequently during discovery and polling sessions. Fingers crossed that this is fixed in

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* I don't think I've ever had an OSPF reliability issue. I brought up a few examples of 1072 reliability issues from this thread in another group of Mikrotik-smart people and the consensus was that none of them had seen a 1072 reliability issue that wasn't the cause of someone using it i

Re: [AFMUG] Adding Aviat Radios to LibreNMS?

2021-01-19 Thread Steve Jones
me too, i wanna know On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:38 AM Sam Lambie wrote: > I have never added a custom MIB to libreNMS. When I add a set of Aviat > 80ghz radios to libre, it picks up the SNMP name, and that is it. Has > anyone successfully been able to poll RSSI, throughput and all the goodies? >

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman
While I haven't seen that myself, it sure sounds like you're comparing the hardware reliability of a $50 hex versus a $10,000 Juniper or Cisco. Remember this started with a need for 1-2 gig of traffic and fear of using Mikrotik for that job. Only time I've personally had issues with OSPF is on old

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Software updates for one. We have hundreds of hex units out there. We push out security upgrades regularly. Often times one doesnt come up after the upgrade and will need to be swapped as it’s dead. OSPF on routeros is also where we’ve had plenty of issues. We’ve just decided to pull OSPF al

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Where have you seen it be not stable? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 12:59:40 PM Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
It’s like playing Jenga. It’s stable until you start making changes. You keep running the risk of it toppling over after every change, or it could continue to be stable until the next change :) > On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:56, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >  > Not a binary thing. Less stable tha

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Not a binary thing. Less stable than others perhaps. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] router programming Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett wrote: The route

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Ryan Ray
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:48 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > The route filters is one. > > There certainly are others, but I've had the same experiences with brand > new iron with support contracts. Shit happens. > > > Saying the platform isn't stable is disingenu

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
The route filters is one. There certainly are others, but I've had the same experiences with brand new iron with support contracts. Shit happens. Saying the platform isn't stable is disingenuous when there are many people using it successfully in a variety of environments. - Mik

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Ryan Ray
I think you're being disingenuous if you're saying that you have never run into an error or bug on Mikrotik where the only fix is a reboot or to shut services on or off or bring an interface down then up. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:36 AM Ryan Ray wrote: > That's cool, I'm happy for you. In our

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Ryan Ray
That's cool, I'm happy for you. In our experience Mikrotik isn't stable on the Long Term branches. On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 8:34 AM Adair Winter wrote: > Yet some of us run hundreds of tik routers and 16 plus gb of traffic all > day erry day. > It's about know how to make the tools work. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
This one? What's new in 6.42.1 (2018-Apr-23 10:46): !) winbox - fixed vulnerability that allowed to gain access to an unsecured router; Yes, I am running a more recent version. Also, I have an aggressive input firewall. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwes

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Adair Winter
Yet some of us run hundreds of tik routers and 16 plus gb of traffic all day erry day. It's about know how to make the tools work. On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:04 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > Cause it's not a stable platform. > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:22 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > >> Why would you be s

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman
My only comment about that uptime...does that have the bug fixes from that authentication issue? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:41 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > "Anything that doesn't stay up pretty mu

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mike Hammett
It'll be fine. The underlying hardware is IBM. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 4:21:50 PM

[AFMUG] Adding Aviat Radios to LibreNMS?

2021-01-19 Thread Sam Lambie
I have never added a custom MIB to libreNMS. When I add a set of Aviat 80ghz radios to libre, it picks up the SNMP name, and that is it. Has anyone successfully been able to poll RSSI, throughput and all the goodies? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com <

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I figure it’s more like the Swiss army knife. Very handy but never really the right tool for the job. Works great until the blade breaks and you stab yourself. Mark > On Jan 19, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > > A student of mine once stated, “The best thing about MikroTik is th

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-19 Thread Dennis Burgess
A student of mine once stated, “The best thing about MikroTik is that it does everything, the worst thing about Mikrotik is that it does everything.” [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Netw