Re: [AFMUG] OT: Data Center Construction

2022-02-01 Thread Steve Jones
There is a ton of data that would never dream of being present in The vulnerable target centers. Privacy and criminality in the digital age has generated a demand for datacenters the same as it used to generate a demand for safe deposit boxes that new banks dont even build in On Tue, Feb 1, 2022,

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Steve Jones
I miss my paper too. We were talking about getting the daughter a bird. Was telling herwe just line the cage with newspaper, then thought about how the only time theres a newspaper here is when somebody dies so we can cut out the obit. So now, do my daughter to have a pet, i have to get into murder

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
non amicus Graecus, non Latinus No my friend, it's a Latin expression.. On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 8:39 AM wrote: > In classical Greek sophistry, the term was “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”. > Which means “after, therefore because of”. > > It’s one of the classic logical fallacies. > > > > > > *From:* A

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Talking heads that make their living off of creating drama and controversy are all BS. The View, Joe, Rachael... all of them are BS. Newspapers less so but you gotta know the bias going in. In Utah we used to have two really good daily papers. The Deseret News and the Salt Lake Tribune. Bot

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
By listening to it myself and weighing the credentials of the guests on the show. So now back to my question... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread dmmoffett
Inflation and gas prices both went up after we landed on the moon. A Jewish state was only created after Adolf Hitler came to power. The economy improved after was elected. The iron age didn’t begin until after the old testament was written. The beauty of it is they’re all factual statement

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
How do you ascertain that he was not? bp On 2/1/2022 10:13 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: How did you ascertain that what he was saying was BS? - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
How did you ascertain that what he was saying was BS? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:41:32 AM Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
It's like Joe Rogan now saying that he's going to give equal time to science versus the BS he's spreading on his podcast. Does that make the BS any less BS? bp On 2/1/2022 8:40 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Dennis Burgess
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Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Steve Jones
Thats exactly it for the issues that actually exist, thanks. Now i need to know what its called when the issue is imagined after an event. Similar to the game i play with my wife where i ask her if the kids feel warm and 99 percent of the time she "feels" a fever on their forehead On Tue, Feb 1,

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread dmmoffett
In classical Greek sophistry, the term was “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”. Which means “after, therefore because of”. It’s one of the classic logical fallacies. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2022 1:10 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
bp On 2/1/2022 6:50 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: The false assumption that correlation is causation. ^^    This. Everyone wants their complicated IT issues to be a simple snap of the finger fix.  No one wants it to be a complicate

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Data Center Construction

2022-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
EdgeConnex hosts a lot of CDN stuff for incumbent operators. I'm not sure what else they do, aside from general colo. The big guys (Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and Google) both build their own facilities from the ground-up as well as lease a variety of things from other datacenter operators,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Data Center Construction

2022-02-01 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
So true, when you actually use bandwidth (which is now actually stupid cheap) the prices skyrocket. We have had a number of people move back when it ended up costing many times more than their colo or rented server setup. Then there will always be the companies that don't trust it and want to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Data Center Construction

2022-02-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I think a lot of companies are finding out how expensive the cloud model really is. Things get very expensive very fast when you really get serious. Mark > On Feb 1, 2022, at 10:23 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > There was an article in the paper this morning talking about how one of the > Chicag

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Let’s call it the Apple effect. Never mind that your product is complex as hell and not particularly easy to use, but with enough PR you can convince the masses that it’s a great product, and you must just be too stupid to understand it. Your Internet was great when everyone else said it w

[AFMUG] OT: Data Center Construction

2022-02-01 Thread Nate Burke
There was an article in the paper this morning talking about how one of the Chicago suburbs just approved construction of it's 13th datacenter development. I though the demand for 'private' data center space would be going down since it seems that most companies are going with cloud services f

Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech

2022-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
The false assumption that correlation is causation. Everyone wants their complicated IT issues to be a simple snap of the finger fix. No one wants it to be a complicated mess (ie ethernet issues: is it the router, patch cable, poe, line, radio). On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 2:37 AM Craig Baird wrote: