Re: [AFMUG] VMWare

2022-07-15 Thread dmmoffett
Proxmox has a good feature set for a fraction of the cost. VMWare has some extra niceties, but for 10x the money. My current employer is using VMWare. The previous two had Proxmox. I like them both just fine, but if I was writing the check I’d pick Proxmox every time. ….that said, my W

[AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The LA times has an article about CA landfills filling up with solar panels. It is behind a paywall, so I guess I won’t read it. Sounds like hyperbole to me. First, the all the solar panels in the state, by volume probably don’t match a weeks’ worth of municipal solid waste by volume, so that

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Mike Hammett
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fbusiness%2Fstory%2F2022-07-14%2Fcalifornia-rooftop-solar-pv-panels-recycling-danger - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCo

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Bill Prince
Here's a PDF of the article in today's Merc. bp On 7/15/2022 9:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: The LA times has an article about CA landfills filling up with solar panels.  It is behind a paywall, so I guess I won’t read it.  Sounds like hyperbole to me.  First, the all the solar panels i

[AFMUG] Myakka

2022-07-15 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
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Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Nate Burke
It's always about the money. https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/8/23200153/solar-panel-value-recycling-renewable-energy On 7/15/2022 12:26 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Here's a PDF of the article in today's Merc. bp On 7/15/2022 9:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: The LA times has an article about

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
OK, hyperbole, the stream of waste has hardly started. Not filling up the landfills. The type of waste? Copper, Selenium? You can buy supplements of those at the drug store. Arsenic? Very little in a panel. And Arsenic has a hormetic effect. People are healthier if their drinking water

Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

2022-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Well done. I am trying to do the same. Just no guvmnt dollars yet. Jealous. From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:53 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Myakka Mark gets some press! https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dzs-myakka-communications-levera

Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

2022-07-15 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka Chuck, Thanks Chuck.  You played a big roll in this about 12 years ago.  Gave me access to your guys.  They showed me that Fiber was a feasible option for a small company. -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Communications w

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I find it pretty hard to believe that a lot of solar panels that get replaced just because they're "at the end of their life cycle". I'd bet that there will be a decent market for used panels that can still do ~50% of their output. If nothing else, somebody should start collecting them all and fil

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Nate Burke
You probably don't get free money for using used panels, only new panels. And there's probably a grant for 'Upgrading' to more efficient panels. On 7/15/2022 1:33 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: I find it pretty hard to believe that a lot of solar panels that get replaced just because they're "at th

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yes. If you could get a BLM lease for a large chunk of ground, you could plant them and who cares if it takes twice the acrage, $500/hour/megawatt would be a nice income stream. And there is some good math behind just laying them flat on the ground, with a tiny bit of angle on the N/S axis so

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, that's just what I was thinking. "recycling" old solar panels could be a good business opportunity. On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 1:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Yes. If you could get a BLM lease for a large chunk of ground, you could > plant them and who cares if it takes twice the acrage

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Robert
Does anyone else feel like this is being hyped to force a "solar panel recycling mandate"...   And people are taking their panels down after 25 year ( and a 10-20% decrease in output ) "lifetime"?   More likely they are being sold a new array that exceeds their old array because they are qualif

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Robert
I would have to think that the amount of waste in a solar panel is 1/1000 that in a dead cpu board.. On 7/15/22 11:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: OK, hyperbole, the stream of waste has hardly started. Not filling up the landfills. The type of waste?  Copper, Selenium? You can buy supplements

Re: [AFMUG] OT solar panels

2022-07-15 Thread Zach Underwood
One of the main reasons solar panels get trashed/removed from service is damage. One good hail storm is a utility scale solar farm and you now have 5-10k panels to replace. On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 5:47 PM Robert wrote: > I would have to think that the amount of waste in a solar panel is 1/1000 >

Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

2022-07-15 Thread Josh Luthman
I could have sworn you told us you did some sort of crazy expensive run for some farmer that could have been done with PTP600 for a fraction of the cost like 10 years ago...paid for by the government... On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Well done. I am trying to do th