Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-16 Thread Ryan Ray
We have a few installed in the network and they're not 4Gb/s or 6 hours typically. [image: image.png] [image: image.png] They are still available if you have the traffic levels or network requirements for them. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 10:45 AM Trey Scarborough wrote: > I have installed a few

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-16 Thread Trey Scarborough
I have installed a few of them they will pull down around 4G for about 6hrs a day. You as well have to direct peer with them before they will hand it out. On 6/10/2022 2:29 PM, Steve Jones wrote: why is netflix so stingy with those, arent they just caching servers, or does the entire catalog c

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread TJ Trout
probably better off peering at an IX On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 1:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I am only using about 10% of the BW that I have. > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2022 1:36 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFM

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I am only using about 10% of the BW that I have. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 1:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix It wouldn't actually save any bandwidth if you didn't have that much. It takes a big chunk every night (yes, no

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Mike Hammett
From: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 2:29:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix why is netflix so stingy with those, arent they just caching servers, or does the entire catalog come over? My kids already watched the new

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Pretty sure I am way under that figure. From: Zach Underwood Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 12:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Do you have 5gbps of peak Netflix traffic? if not you probably would not be able to get an onsite box https

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Steve Jones
why is netflix so stingy with those, arent they just caching servers, or does the entire catalog come over? My kids already watched the new stranger things season like 4 times, Id like a consumer version On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 2:05 PM Zach Underwood wrote: > Do you have 5gbps of peak Netflix t

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Zach Underwood
Do you have 5gbps of peak Netflix traffic? if not you probably would not be able to get an onsite box https://openconnect.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360034538352 On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 2:55 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Years ago, getting a Netflix content server was considered a major fea

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
You can get them, assuming you have enough Netflix data at peak to justify Netflix sending a pair your way.. 5Gbps+ I think?. Same sorta deal for Facebook, Google, Apple and Amazon. > On Jun 10, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Years ago, getting a Netflix content server wa

[AFMUG] Netflix

2022-06-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Years ago, getting a Netflix content server was considered a major feat and definitely something to strive for. Is this still a thing? Are they still available? Still worth pursuing? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Darin Steffl
Depends on the size of the screen. SD on an 80" TV will look like crap but on your 4.5" smartphone, it will look much better as it's not blown up like a TV. When I go on Norwegian cruise ships, they use Procera to limit video streams to about 600 kbps and while it takes 20 seconds for Netflix to s

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Steve Jones
I dont understand how standard definition used to stream at 512k with a decent video, and now it looks like abstract art. Have we become more accustomed to higher def and sd still looks the same, we just notice it more now? On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:35 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > That’s exactly what we

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
That’s exactly what we saw. Preseem would equalize flows - but we still got calls for buffering issues. When we created data lanes those issues also went away. Saisei was a bit complex to get setup. But they helped all the way. And since it’s setup it’s been hands off. > On Dec 5, 2020,

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Darin Steffl
Preseem handles this fine too Matt. If Netflix bursts up to 25 mbps while you have voip or gaming going, fq_codel will make sure the small flows move ahead of Netflix. Saisei is DPI and entirely different so you can keep Netflix at 5 mbps for example. It's way more complicated and has more knobs t

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
At 25 megabit plans we see devices thrash painfully. They will think they have the full 25 meg. Try to grab a chunk. And can’t because something is using the bandwidth. That’s why we made lanes. > On Dec 5, 2020, at 6:00 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: > >  > Yes Netflix will scale down gracefully.

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Darin Steffl
Yes Netflix will scale down gracefully. They have the best compression and least amount of buffering of any streaming provider. They are using the latest encoding techniques to reduce bandwidth with no perceptible loss of quality. Netflix will actually work down to 0.5 mbps without buffering. This

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Bill Prince
This is a couple of years old, so it is probably out of date. The point is that Netflix doesn't exactly "stream" a video, but instead tries to maintain a buffer on the target device. It does this by picking an encode (at the time of the video, they say there are t

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Matt Hoppes
I don’t know. But this is why we run Saisei and carve out “channels” for applications. We’ve found issues with that exact situation and devices that don’t handle the down scale properly. We’ve actually had customers report a better experience on our 10 meg plan than our 25 megabit plan until

[AFMUG] Netflix 4K video bandwidth

2020-12-05 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have seen customers recently using 12 Mbps for what appears to be a single Netflix video stream. Anyone else seeing this? I was puzzled what could be between HD at 5-6 Mbps and UHD at 15-25 Mbps? But then I saw this: https://netflixtechblog.com/optimized-shot-based-encodes-for-4k-now-str

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix change peers?

2019-05-30 Thread Mike Hammett
hers WISP - Original Message - From: "TJ Trout" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 11:29:31 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Netflix change peers? Around 5/14 I noticed several gbps of traffic shift from one peer (6939) to another peer (7

[AFMUG] Netflix change peers?

2019-05-29 Thread TJ Trout
Around 5/14 I noticed several gbps of traffic shift from one peer (6939) to another peer (7018) did Netflix or some other player recently change peering agreements? Anyone else see a substantial drop or increase in downstream traffic from one peer to another about mid-month? -- AF mailing list AF@