Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-14 Thread Jon Langeler
3, 2018 at 11:06 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>>> There are lots of choices. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For DIN rail, I keep the Traco 360W units in stock, use them with or >>>>>>>> without the BMU depending on whether it’s an AC or DC site. >>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-13 Thread David M
to:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:28 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-13 Thread Jon Langeler
ccept up to at least 60V. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s starting to drive me crazy when I want to add a sector at a site >>>>>> and realize the existing sectors are 24V but the new one will have to be >&g

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-13 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
ept up to at least 60V. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It’s starting to drive me crazy when I want to add a sector at a site >>>>> and realize the existing sectors are 24V but the new one will have to be >>>>> 48V. The

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
supplies around 2x actual radio current draw, to allow > for inrush current when everything gets powered up at once. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:15 PM > To: AFMUG > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob > > I imagine

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I like to size power supplies around 2x actual radio current draw, to allow for inrush current when everything gets powered up at once. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:15 PM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob I imagine it would

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-12 Thread Ryan Ray
new one will have to be >>>> 48V. The RackInjectors and PowerInjectors handle this nicely, but it’s a >>>> recipe for disaster and a source of confusion. I’ve already fried a 450 AP >>>> at a tower with mixed vintage equipment, because I thought it was a 450i >>>> a

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard
ent, because I thought it was a 450i >>> and I powered it with 48V. It ran for a couple days and then died. >>> >>> >>> >>> Techs keep questioning me when I say an AF5x or a Nanostation ac takes >>> 24V. I understand the confusion, you don’t expect 24V o

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-12-12 Thread Ryan Ray
confusion, you don’t expect 24V on a Gigabit POE. >> What would really make sense is if equipment would accept either voltage, >> and either polarity. OK, not possible with high current draw radios like a >> Medusa or an AF11, but it would be nice on a Nanostation. >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Mathew Howard
; *Sent:* Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:28 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob > > > > I have the new 3.65 medusa on my mind plus I'm a bit tired. > > > > The 48V 2.5A power supplies will run 2 non 3.65 medu

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
GHz to communicate between his towers and we have a narrow “beam of death” where we can’t hook up 5 GHz customers. From: AF On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 2:05 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob Yeah, n more fiberglass dishes. We only

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 1:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob Traditional Canopy sync used brief Power interruptions in order to move the sync across the wire. Obviously this wouldn't work without power being turned on. The new cambium

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
; > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Tyson Burris > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 3, 2018 1:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob > > > > Forrest, > > > > Can you explain this a bit more… or perhaps I will see you at the show

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
dishes because it doesn’t fit in the holder. It does look fancy though. From: AF On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 12:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob I have not seen a PMP450b in 3.65 yet? Keep in mind the power issue is only related

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Dave
] Packetflux noob Forrest,  I have learned that specifically the 3.6Ghz Medusa doesnt do POE at all. It only accepts direct dc hookup. Which leads me to this question since it also needs sync and requires cmm5 can I still use the packetflux rack injector unit to provide the sync needed since

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Dave
Sounds like a current or heat issue to draw power from any device. I know a thread a while back where chuck and others discussed this on types of wire as well. I am on the fence about running AC up the tower or DC. The flaws in DC are oxidation and current draw. Where AC is more or less an

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
feedtube. From: AF On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 11:28 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob Forrest, I have learned that specifically the 3.6Ghz Medusa doesnt do POE at all. It only accepts direct dc hookup. Which leads me to this question since

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
yep, it should work, don't have a 3.65 medusa to test. The shipping firmware in the rackinjector turns off sync if you turn off power. I need to find out if the Medusa is ok with getting power on that port even though it v won't use it. Long term I'll update the firmware in the rackinjector

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
yes, remember what I said about being tired? syncbox Jr basic edition is the gps receiver / antenna, and yes that's needed too. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 10:29 AM TJ Trout wrote: > Forrest, > > Did you check his screenshot? Doesn't he need a gps antenna, and what's > the syncbox JR for? > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread TJ Trout
Forrest, Did you check his screenshot? Doesn't he need a gps antenna, and what's the syncbox JR for? On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 9:16 AM Eric Muehleisen wrote: > I'm considering N00L101A or similar so I can future proof myself in > case we add an additional AP or BH down the road. > > On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Dave
Forrest,  I have learned that specifically the 3.6Ghz Medusa doesnt do POE at all. It only accepts direct dc hookup. Which leads me to this question since it also needs sync and requires cmm5 can I still use the packetflux rack injector unit to provide the sync needed since it is the same as

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I'm considering N00L101A or similar so I can future proof myself in case we add an additional AP or BH down the road. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 10:29 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I have the new 3.65 medusa on my mind plus I'm a bit tired. > > The 48V

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
a Medusa or an AF11, but it would be nice on a Nanostation. From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2018 10:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob I have the new 3.65 medusa on my mind plus I'm a bit

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I have the new 3.65 medusa on my mind plus I'm a bit tired. The 48V 2.5A power supplies will run 2 non 3.65 medusa radios each. If you jumper the boards so 2 radios run off of each power supply you'll be fine (the AF24 is a similar quantity of power). But, a bulk supply is probably a better

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Ok Great. Will do. Thanks Forest! On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 9:17 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Everything looks fine, other than we don't currently have any supplies big > enough for the Medusa, so you'll (currently) need to come up with something > yourself.

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Everything looks fine, other than we don't currently have any supplies big enough for the Medusa, so you'll (currently) need to come up with something yourself. Many of our customers are just using their -48VDC battery supply. Or getting a bulk 48VDC supply. We're trying to come up with

[AFMUG] Packetflux noob

2018-10-03 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I've been using CTM2's for nearly a decade, but they do not support 450m. CMM5 is waaay to expensive for what it does and is clunky. I've been looking at Packetflux's RackInjector's. I'm not familiar with PacketFlux products and need clarity on something. See attached. I need to power (3) 450m