Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-11 Thread Steve Jones
truck have a ground rod driven? I think that may be a >>> requirement. Could be a weird ground loop situation. >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jan-GAMs >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2023 10:40 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-10 Thread Josh Luthman
, January 10, 2023 11:01 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower > > Rofl what kind of question is that? We both know there's no ground rod. > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 12:44 PM Chuck McCown via AF >

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Yeahbut, you really want to shock one of your customers when they come up to the window? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 11:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower Rofl what kind of question is that

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-10 Thread Jan-GAMs
nt:* Monday, January 9, 2023 3:50 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower We are already using shielded ethernet cable.  The truck is parked about 40ft from the pole with two heavy guage extension cords plugged into outlets at the base of the pole and about a 90

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Ms > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 10, 2023 10:40 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower > > > yes, voltage is reading 122v ac. The decimal point seems to wander, > hinting there is some noise. I don't have an o-scope available.

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-10 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Does the truck have a ground rod driven? I think that may be a requirement. Could be a weird ground loop situation. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 10:40 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower yes, voltage is reading 122v ac. The decimal

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-10 Thread Jan-GAMs
voltage drop to noise up your power supplies. Have you checked the AC voltage? *From:* Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Monday, January 9, 2023 3:50 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower We are already using shielded ethernet cable.  The truck is parked about 40ft from th

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Maybe they are causing enough voltage drop to noise up your power supplies. Have you checked the AC voltage? From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 3:50 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower We are already using shielded ethernet cable. The truck is

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread Jan-GAMs
From: AF On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 3:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower It's in a parking-lot of a business and they started plugging their f

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
straight through. Depending >>>> on where the noise is coming from that might not fix it, but you can test >>>> an isolated ground by snapping off the ground prong on the transformer or >>>> using a 2-prong adapter. I say "test" because you shouldn't run without a >&

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread dmmoffett
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2023 11:05 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower I had a 0% success rate with ferrite. I have a 100% success rate with fiber (up the tower). On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:57 AM Forrest Christian (List Account

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread Josh Luthman
but you can test >>> an isolated ground by snapping off the ground prong on the transformer or >>> using a 2-prong adapter. I say "test" because you shouldn't run without a >>> ground permanently. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Mess

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
t;> an isolated ground by snapping off the ground prong on the transformer or >> using a 2-prong adapter. I say "test" because you shouldn't run without a >> ground permanently. >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AF On Beh

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread Josh Luthman
can test > an isolated ground by snapping off the ground prong on the transformer or > using a 2-prong adapter. I say "test" because you shouldn't run without a > ground permanently. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs >

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-09 Thread dmmoffett
-GAMs Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2023 3:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower It's in a parking-lot of a business and they started plugging their food truck into the power-source. So what do you mean by "DC plant"? On 1/8/23 12:20, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-08 Thread Bill Prince
All the equipment you have runs (or can run) on DC (48VDC and/or 24VDC), so install some batteries to provide backup, but at the same time they can provide DC voltage that is isolated from the 120 (or 240) VAC. bp On 1/8/2023 12:41 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote: It's in a parking-lot of a business and t

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-08 Thread Jan-GAMs
It's in a parking-lot of a business and they started plugging their food truck into the power-source.  So what do you mean by "DC plant"? On 1/8/23 12:20, Bill Prince wrote: If your site is 100% DC-powered, the batteries should provide all the isolation you need. My suggestion is to just switch

Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-08 Thread Bill Prince
If your site is 100% DC-powered, the batteries should provide all the isolation you need. My suggestion is to just switch to DC plant. bp On 1/8/2023 11:21 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: Ever since a food truck started plugging their truck into the same power source we use we've been experiencing sever

[AFMUG] backup power for small tower

2023-01-08 Thread Jan-GAMs
Ever since a food truck started plugging their truck into the same power source we use we've been experiencing severe packet loss through it.  Possibly electrical motor-hum?  Anyway, I'm wondering what is available or suggested to use to place a better electrical isolation for a battery backup