Re: [AFMUG] sonnet tubes for guy wire ancors

2015-05-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have done this but the diameter was 30". At the end of the day you have to remember that normally the concrete is really there to adhere to our provide friction against the earth. Very few anchors actually have enough weight to counter the pull off the guys. The Rohn book should provide some gui

[AFMUG] sonnet tubes for guy wire ancors

2015-05-09 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Anyone ever use sonnet tubes drilled into the ground and then poured full of concrete for guy wire anchor points? We have a 100' rohn that we just purchased. Two anchors are solid but the third is anchored on the top of what could best be described as a stone and concrete pillar. The concrete is al

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Jon Langeler
Along those lines is what I was wondering... Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Buy 110PTPs, use radios as APs in lower density situations? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > Midwest Interne

Re: [AFMUG] Need to pay someone to harden edge Mikrotik router

2015-05-09 Thread TJ Trout
For $100 butch can install and customize it and do a bunch of other optimization. Well worth it On May 9, 2015 5:46 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > Thanks. Looks like its working good. > > > > > > > > John Woodfield, President > > Delmarva WiFi Inc. > > 410-870-WiFi > > > > -Original Message---

Re: [AFMUG] Need to pay someone to harden edge Mikrotik router

2015-05-09 Thread John Woodfield
Thanks. Looks like its working good. John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 4:26pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need to pay someone to harden edge Mikrotik router Butch has a great f

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Yeah, I think I'm just going with the BCMU for new stuff that requires >100W. There's pros and cons to the 12V and DC-DC conversion, but I'm not really concerned about that in most cases. On 5/9/2015 6:36 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: If what I remember of Alpha pricing is accurate, it would cost mo

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
If what I remember of Alpha pricing is accurate, it would cost more than everything else at the site combined. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jeremy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sat, 09 May 2015 18:30:21 -0500 (CDT) Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Jeremy
Looks sweet. Price? Anyone used one? On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Seems to have all you want plus more! > > > http://www.alpha.ca/web2/products/standard-systems/dc-power-solutions/item/cordex-psu > > > > > > From: Mike Hammett > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date:

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Seems to have all you want plus more! http://www.alpha.ca/web2/products/standard-systems/dc-power-solutions/item/cordex-psu From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:15 PM To: "af@afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
The install instructions for it also mention a battery test, but like the other BCM units there's minimal information on how the test operates. I asked Traco for more information on the test it does. Maybe it's the same process as the TLB-BC I mentioned earlier today, just not documented as such

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
That's what it looks like. Seems they've refined the product brochures and datasheets. " If the connected supply fails, the battery is then connected to the load (buffer mode), a step up converter is used to maintain the selected output voltage level, Vnom - 6% (typical)." They also lead you

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
13.2.1 just fixes some SNMP bugs and possibly something else, I forget, but no, nothing sync related. Well, it does give you the ability to permanently disable the on-board GPS (synconboard off via telnet) if it's acting stupid. This all started in one of the early 13.2 builds. If the iGPS has

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Am I understanding that unit correctly? It has a step-up converter from the battery, so unlike the BCM-12/24/48, the output will always be regulated 24 or 48 volts, not battery voltage? Also that it only needs a 12V battery? And can work with any DC power supply since unlike the BCM it doesn’

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I had thrown this out to FB earlier: Thoughts the different systems. These would be for smaller sites. Bigger sites would likely get a 48v plant, 4x 100 aH batteries, etc. 1 === Traco TSP090-124 Traco BCM24 2x 12v 22 aH batteries First idea Electronics roughly same cost as #2, but large

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
This is where the BCMU-360 makes sense, 24 or 48v in one unit. On 5/9/2015 1:16 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I believe the BCM does have a battery test, maybe not as fancy. My reaction is 60W is kind of low, plus I can use 3 different sizes of TSP from 90 to 360W with the same BCM or alone as just a p

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Buy 110PTPs, use radios as APs in lower density situations? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes both sides have a puck. It's the AP hardware. With 2.4.2 it can have 10 subs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 9, 2015 4:50 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > Ok one last question. Does Force110 PTP have GPS built into it? One e

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes, though it may need sync over power? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jon Langeler" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015 3:50:20 PM Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Jon Langeler
Ok one last question. Does Force110 PTP have GPS built into it? One end or both ends? I should probably get a kit... Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > No > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Tr

Re: [AFMUG] Need to pay someone to harden edge Mikrotik router

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Butch has a great firewall on his website. I've used it for 8 years with success. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 9, 2015 4:17 PM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > Subject says it all. Running a CCR-1016-12S-1S+ > > > > Need to find

[AFMUG] Need to pay someone to harden edge Mikrotik router

2015-05-09 Thread John Woodfield
Subject says it all. Running a CCR-1016-12S-1S+ Need to find someone who I can pay to remote in and properly set up the firewall. DDOS attack was not on my Saturday bucket list. Hit me up off site with an estimate. I would imagine it should be pretty simple but I'd like to get it done well

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Luthman
No Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Does non-GPS ePMP receive sync over power? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 9, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Kidding right? I th

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Jon Langeler
Does non-GPS ePMP receive sync over power? Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Kidding right? I think all of our APs are sync over power excepting PTP450, > which only does timing port sync. We've just found sync over power to be most > reliable. > > bp >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
Kidding right? I think all of our APs are sync over power excepting PTP450, which only does timing port sync. We've just found sync over power to be most reliable. bp On 5/9/2015 10:43 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Why even mess with Poe sync? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On May 9, 2015, at

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Exactly. Health of wells is vital as our Hueco Bosom aquifer is getting low. Our area has been on conservativation mode for a while. California engineers in town studying our systems. Dell City and Antelope Wells have water but over 70 miles away and mountain range in path. Jaime Solorza On M

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Oh, I forgot about that as it didn't interest me when it came out. I would have the opposite problem as the SyncInjector, though without the sync. On the SyncInjector I'd have to wire non-Cambium devices backwards. With the PowerBox I'd have to wire Cambium devices backwards. That's not that bi

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
It has a battery OK contact closure output, and a jumper to set the battery test interval to 10 minutes (default) or 15 seconds. The installation instructions say the battery test current is 2.5A for 60ms. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
The Mikrotik outdoor Poe router, powerboard? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On May 9, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: $176 As far as PowerBox, are you talking about the Australians? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [h

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.tracopower.com/products/tsp-bcm.pdf The BCM datasheet doesn't say anything about battery tests. The part the TBL-BC seems to do differently is: = The unit incorporates full automatic monitoring for the presence and condition of the battery. Two different battery tests are carr

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I believe the BCM does have a battery test, maybe not as fancy. My reaction is 60W is kind of low, plus I can use 3 different sizes of TSP from 90 to 360W with the same BCM or alone as just a power supply or add the BCM later. And if it fails, I only have to replace the failed unit. And if the

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
$176 As far as PowerBox, are you talking about the Australians? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" To: "" Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Price? I believe there are better options Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On May 9, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Right, which is why I mentioned it for repeater sites, not full sites. Something where you have like an RB750, a Force110 feed coming in and maybe

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Powerbox? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On May 9, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Right, which is why I mentioned it for repeater sites, not full sites. Something where you have like an RB750, a Force110 feed coming in and maybe a couple integrated units for

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Right, which is why I mentioned it for repeater sites, not full sites. Something where you have like an RB750, a Force110 feed coming in and maybe a couple integrated units for APs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange htt

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Backup for puck failure? :-p I was looking at what to do for a couple different towers today. Gigabit SyncInjector isn't much different in price than the standard injector + distribution and yet gives you the option of sending sync over it. It comes at the detriment of being able to select pol

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Why even mess with Poe sync? Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On May 9, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Darren Shea mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote: Forrest, Cambium has admitted there is a problem with GPS sync over power dropping for no reason on the ePMP APs with some software versions, and it is a c

Re: [AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Gino Villarini
Only 60w Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On May 9, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Has anyone looked at the Traco TBL-BC before? It seems to do a lot things other than basic battery charging and even temperature compensation. It's not all that big, but may be g

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
We got ours for a little over $400; they were running a 10% off deal for our home owner group. There are a couple dozen (at least) of our neighbors that are using it, so we have been comparing notes. Yes, it's kind of a sonar device. It sends a low frequency pulse (~~ 50 Hz or so) down the wel

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Darren Shea
Forrest, Cambium has admitted there is a problem with GPS sync over power dropping for no reason on the ePMP APs with some software versions, and it is a cross-platform problem. It doesn’t seem to be any worse on our PacketFlux gear than it is on the LMG CTM-2M – and we only see this on ePM

[AFMUG] Another DC Question

2015-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Has anyone looked at the Traco TBL-BC before? It seems to do a lot things other than basic battery charging and even temperature compensation. It's not all that big, but may be good for repeater sites. Seems to be about the same cost for a bigger power supply and regular BCM as this guy, but the

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes ..they are customized for depth. Bout 500.00 ish Jaime Solorza On May 9, 2015 10:47 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Do you put it in the bottom of the well and it measures pressure? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Saturday, May 09, 2015 9:45 AM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Do you put it in the bottom of the well and it measures pressure? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 9:45 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection Sends. I meant. These are city water wells. Jaime Solorza On May 9, 2015 9:29 AM, "Jaime Solorz

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
This one must be some kind of sonar device. How expensive is it? From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection We've been using this on our well since last September. Works very well. http://www.enoscientific

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m actually relying on George to hound them until they find and fix the problem. Note that I’m on 13.2 which is not the latest latest FW, I don’t think there have been any sync fixes since then however. Not sure I’ve seen the issue he talks about with sync events during operation, once mine a

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sends. I meant. These are city water wells. Jaime Solorza On May 9, 2015 9:29 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > They call it a water pilot. it is a transmitter which sents measurements > to PLC > > http://www.us.endress.com/en/Tailor-made-field-instrumentation/pressure/Hydrostatic-level-Waterpilot-

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Colin Stanners
That sounds problematic - what did Cambium tech support say? On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’ve definitely noticed autosync issues on 450 running 13.2 FW, on both > 3.65 and 5 GHz. It will report no sync from internal GPS, or it will > report receiving power port sync fr

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Bill Prince
We've been using this on our well since last September. Works very well. http://www.enoscientific.com/well-watch-600.htm bp On 5/9/2015 8:28 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: They call it a water pilot. it is a transmitter which sents measurements to PLC http://www.us.endress.com/en/Tailor-made-f

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
They call it a water pilot. it is a transmitter which sents measurements to PLC http://www.us.endress.com/en/Tailor-made-field-instrumentation/pressure/Hydrostatic-level-Waterpilot-FMX21 we are going down 490 to 700 ft depending on well site Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes better than Ubnt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 9, 2015 10:36 AM, "John Woodfield" wrote: > No better than Ubiquiti in 2.4? > > > > > > > > John > > > > -Original Message- > From: "Josh Luthman" > Sent: Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection

2015-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
How does that water level sensor do its thing? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 5:57 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Deep insertion and another erection Doing what I do best..deep insertion. 585 ft deep and erection of 35 ft tower long week Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4

2015-05-09 Thread John Woodfield
No better than Ubiquiti in 2.4? John -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 11:01pm To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 2.4 802.11 quality :P I can't really give you a good answer. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ve definitely noticed autosync issues on 450 running 13.2 FW, on both 3.65 and 5 GHz. It will report no sync from internal GPS, or it will report receiving power port sync from a CTM2 or Syncinjector (which is actually present, unlike your case) but nonetheless will freerun. Typically occurs

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
The latest software release enabled it. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On May 9, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Yes, the 110 PTP does have a built in GPS. > >> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Jon

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450 and ePMP with Packet Flux Gear

2015-05-09 Thread Zack Deveaux
For what it's worth, I've noticed AutoSync weirdness as well on PMP100 900MHz APs and it didn't seem to have anything to do with Packetflux gear. It's occurred with APs timed by Sync Pipes but also when timed by just SM timing ports. Occasionally if the AP were to lose it's timing port sync, th