Re: [AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
these are the old alvarion breeze access II power supplies, built in isreal, I assume by scrapping dead Israeli fighters gold fillings and russian tanks On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 11:02 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Depending what kind of power supplies they are, they might have some > decent scrap va

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
btw, im afraid of my daughter On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 11:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > We got on board with airfiber 24 day 1. but under 1 mile shots, there were > some ... hurdles, down to power supplies (i mean seriously, how do you mess > up power supplies?

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We got on board with airfiber 24 day 1. but under 1 mile shots, there were some ... hurdles, down to power supplies (i mean seriously, how do you mess up power supplies?!?!) the radios however havent been replaced. the links we have put 11ghz in, we chose the company we chose after a full year of c

Re: [AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Depending what kind of power supplies they are, they might have some decent scrap value... or so I've been told. On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > i got some 5.4 > some 2.4 > and a shit ton of 900 > I say the illinois guys get together wi

Re: [AFMUG] sunmax

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im central illinois, not prime solar grounds, but Im looking at a quick, cheap(ish) easy entry into secondary power at our sites, mostly brain elevators or legs on farmground where we have an easy footprint, would you say cost/output/simplicity, this is worth toying with over a mutlivendor solution

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
I know of a company that already has 8 links deployed that they replaced existing radios with. They built their own radio core. (Second time for UBNT, if you count Invictus core and then this one... Not counting the ones they made before UBNT.) You underestimate them a lot. They're making more mo

Re: [AFMUG] sunmax

2016-11-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I just have them laying on the roof on some blocks with some wire running out of the breaker box, never fully installed them, but it does look like an easy install On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > is the "ease of install" what it claims

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
this isnt my usual asshole distrust of UBNT, I know UBNT chuck is behind it, so its solid gear, but are people really ready to put their faith in the limited and $$$ spectrum on UBNT? On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > They are designing for a lot of different mounting optio

Re: [AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i got some 5.4 some 2.4 and a shit ton of 900 I say the illinois guys get together with some shotguns for real kicks, I even have some alvarion VL, somebody might need to bring a .50 for those but seriously, I have like 300 12v 4a power supplies, whats a guy to do with those im down for shooting th

Re: [AFMUG] sunmax

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
is the "ease of install" what it claims? On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I have it on the roof of the office. Works surprisingly well. I'm going to > put more up. > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> anybo

Re: [AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Why doesn't anyone want the 5.4 FSK radios? On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I think the only ones worth the shipping cost, judging from past posts, > are the 5.2 ones. Hmmm, you think maybe because they are pre-DFS? > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behal

Re: [AFMUG] sunmax

2016-11-18 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have it on the roof of the office. Works surprisingly well. I'm going to put more up. On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > anybody deployed any of this yet? is it ubntbuggy? > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux 1U SyncInjector

2016-11-18 Thread Matt
> The 1U injector is very close. I need to finish validation on the latest > board revisions and then will be releasing it to production assuming there > isn't some showstopper I missed. So how many port will this unit be? Will it support the new Cambium Sync format for the 450m? Holding off on

Re: [AFMUG] OT... Relax ese

2016-11-18 Thread Jaime Solorza
Actually this one is me Aussie hat.. On Nov 18, 2016 5:41 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Everyone looks 100% more handsome in a nice Stetson, no? > > > > Someone should send our new presidente and his cabinet some nice > sombreros, they would still be a bunch of old white guys, but at least they > wo

Re: [AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think the only ones worth the shipping cost, judging from past posts, are the 5.2 ones. Hmmm, you think maybe because they are pre-DFS? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any worth i

Re: [AFMUG] OT... Relax ese

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Everyone looks 100% more handsome in a nice Stetson, no? Someone should send our new presidente and his cabinet some nice sombreros, they would still be a bunch of old white guys, but at least they would look good. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread George Skorup
I think the last offer that was made to us for 900 FSK SMs was like $10/board. We're sitting on probably more than 100 right now. Maybe a little more for P10 and P11 5.7's. Nobody wants 5.4 FSK. I think Paul said he has hundreds. On 11/18/2016 4:37 PM, Sam Kirsch wrote: We just made the decisi

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
They are designing for a lot of different mounting options, but they have to hit the ones that are the easiest sells out the gate. Stay tuned. On Nov 18, 2016 5:44 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > We have RadioWaves HP2 and HP3s' in a couple flavors. HPx-11R, Remec round > for Trango ApexPlus and H

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
And that will always be the mystery... bp On 11/18/2016 3:44 PM, George Skorup wrote: This would probably be half as difficult if UBNT would've designed for waveguide, IMO.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread George Skorup
We have RadioWaves HP2 and HP3s' in a couple flavors. HPx-11R, Remec round for Trango ApexPlus and HPx-11EX, for Exalt G2. Then we have Trango AD11G2-S2's and 3-S2's for ApexPlus, Remec round. So obviously we wouldn't be able to do the feedhorn swap on those. The RadioWaves 11EX are single-pol

[AFMUG] Any worth in trying to sell 5.7 PMP100s?

2016-11-18 Thread Sam Kirsch
We just made the decision that redeploying anything on the PMP100 platform we've been pulling down with 450 deployments is a waste, even if its going to more rural areas, unproven markets, etc... its a waste of our time to climb up and mount this stuff. I have somewhere in the realm of 70 SMs

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
So there is an interesting question. Does the AF11X use diplexers or does it use duplexers? The little boxes that connect the RF side are labled "duplexer". The key difference is going to be that there is a circulator in a duplexor, and that it would allow the TX and RX frequencies to be very

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Route Filters - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:32:03 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues. How would o

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
When it covered the window with login prompts (yes, more than one), I went away. Turns out there was a "Not Now" link in faded blue that I did not see. That dismisses the big login prompt that covers the window. Back to your regular programming. bp On 11/18/2016 12:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Does TBW page require a login? You should not assume you need a FB account to visit a FB page, especially a business page. You may need one to post comments. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: R

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Carl Peterson
How would one go about filtering AS2906 on one feed? I can control my outbound traffic but I don't have a lot of control over who sends what in. On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Seems like there are many moving parts to this. Upstream routes, > downstream routes, DNS, and w

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wow, I can’t quite define why, but I like the silicone boot over an N connector a lot less than over an SMA connector. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have

[AFMUG] sunmax

2016-11-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
anybody deployed any of this yet? is it ubntbuggy? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
Don't have a facebook account. No can look. bp On 11/18/2016 11:59 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/photos/a.997555730369879.1073741834.186874744771319/997557797036339/?type=3&theater This and the next few pictures. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
I've seen this conversation a couple times and figured I'd chime in with the link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
And there you have it. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/photos/a.997555730369879.1073741834.186874744771319/997557797036339/?type=3&theater This

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Keefe John
you should On 11/18/2016 1:53 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I can easily spin the adapter to fit all ODU style antennas. The adapter fits over the antenna feedhorn nose and is secured by a set screw. A bit more work but a whole adapter plate could be done too. REMEC, SAF, Exalt, DW, I can do the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/photos/a.997555730369879.1073741834.186874744771319/997557797036339/?type=3&theater This and the next few pictures. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
I am guessing UBNT is hard at work doing this already. -Original Message- From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First? I can easily spin the adapter to fit all ODU style antennas. The ad

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
I can easily spin the adapter to fit all ODU style antennas. The adapter fits over the antenna feedhorn nose and is secured by a set screw. A bit more work but a whole adapter plate could be done too. REMEC, SAF, Exalt, DW, I can do them all. But will I? Should I? -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread Keefe John
does radiowaves have an adapter ready? On 11/18/2016 1:39 PM, George Skorup wrote: For RadioWaves, sounds like the feedhorn has to be replaced. But I'm also thinking of all the Trango OEM antennas we have deployed. Would be easier/universal to have a Remec adapter plate for the AF-11X. On 11

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread George Skorup
For RadioWaves, sounds like the feedhorn has to be replaced. But I'm also thinking of all the Trango OEM antennas we have deployed. Would be easier/universal to have a Remec adapter plate for the AF-11X. On 11/18/2016 1:25 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have the design. Designed it about 4 month

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
I have the design. Designed it about 4 months ago. I can easily put it into production. It will not be cheap. How long before UBNT knocks it off. Not sure I want to release a new product. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:11 PM To: memb.

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
Not just a prince, but I am, in fact, Prince William. I write that on all my legal documents. bp On 11/18/2016 10:57 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: You may continue to use the royal “we” since you are a Prince. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, Novem

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Who will have AF-11X First?

2016-11-18 Thread George Skorup
Yup. Someone here on the members list said they were looking to get that made. Was that you, Brad? I'm sure Chuck McCown could make it, too. On 11/18/2016 10:09 AM, Brad Belton wrote: I wish there was a REMEC round to dual polarity N-Type adapter available.

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman
/slap Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 18, 2016 1:57 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > You may continue to use the royal “we” since you are a Prince. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *S

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
You may continue to use the royal “we” since you are a Prince. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:38 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users and neither is @part15...@gmail.com bp

Re: [AFMUG] Email Server Options

2016-11-18 Thread George Skorup
We used Ipswitch Imail for a long, long time. Then we moved everything over to our cPanel server. Now we're shutting down our ISP mail at the end of the year. It's just not worth it anymore. On 11/18/2016 6:25 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: I really like Surgemail …. great system for small to mid siz

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Seems like there are many moving parts to this. Upstream routes, downstream routes, DNS, and whatever anycast tricks Netflix does. I would imagine both Level3 and Cogent have on net Netflix servers, and that the worst situation would be the traffic has to go from one of them to the other in

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
and neither is @part15...@gmail.com bp On 11/18/2016 10:34 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Royal we is out, referring to yourself in the third person is in. Preferably beginning with @. As in @chuckmccown is not amused. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
Chuck McCown is too old to adopt anything that is “in” From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users Royal we is out, referring to yourself in the third person is in. Preferably beginning with @. A

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Royal we is out, referring to yourself in the third person is in. Preferably beginning with @. As in @chuckmccown is not amused. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
One thing to keep in mind is where your resolving DNS servers sit. Keep them on-net for the best performance. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: F

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Ray Savich
I am getting the details for you. Good questions. Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Bill Prince
Netflix may also be caching your IP range for CDN selection. You change from one upstream to another, and they're still distributing from the old place? bp On 11/18/2016 10:05 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: With that connection up, filter Netflix's AS from your Level 3 feed and see if it still wor

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
The royal “we”... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users What do you mean "we" Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 18, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Josh Luthman
What do you mean "we" Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > Sorry Ray, we are a tough crowd at times! > > *From:* Chris Wright > *Sent:* Friday, November 18, 2016 10:14 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
With that connection up, filter Netflix's AS from your Level 3 feed and see if it still works properly with both connections up, but Netflix only available over Cogent? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Me

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
Sorry Ray, we are a tough crowd at times! From: Chris Wright Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users Multicast probably isn’t even necessary to justify this, judging by what appears to be the default resolution of

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Chris Wright
Multicast probably isn’t even necessary to justify this, judging by what appears to be the default resolution of the test video. Let’s be generous with our assumptions and assume these laptops are 1920x1080 native resolution. Given this assumption, we can infer that the test video’s resolution a

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Carl Peterson
L3 is hosting most of the Netflix content. They prefer to send it to me over the L3 connection. Someone with a VM connected to L3 in another DC in Baltimore just reached out to me and they are not seeing the same issue so it might be connection specific. On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Mike Ha

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
I was not thinking multicast. Do you think this is multicast? From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:58 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users Not watching the video, but doing this with multicast is easy. 50 different 7-25Mbps streams

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not watching the video, but doing this with multicast is easy. 50 different 7-25Mbps streams would be much more difficult. On Nov 18, 2016 9:36 AM, wrote: > I would be interested in seeing the same video showing them streaming 50 > football games at the same time. Animations compress pretty tig

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Nate Burke
Is there anywhere that actually documents anything with the test? Throughput per Machine, Total throughput at AP. Single AP or multiple AP setup? (the video shows 2 physical AP units) Signal levels, noise? Anything? The video is cool and all, but really doesn't prove anything without more

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread chuck
I would be interested in seeing the same video showing them streaming 50 football games at the same time. Animations compress pretty tight. From: Ray Savich Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:18 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users cnPilot WiFi E400 i

[AFMUG] Streaming video to 50 simultaneous users

2016-11-18 Thread Ray Savich
cnPilot WiFi E400 indoor and E500 outdoor solutions demonstrate simultaneous video streaming to 50 clients. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfP2D019JYw Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Mike Hammett
You must be preferring L3 to Netflix instead of Cogent and L3's connection to Netflix must suck. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, Nove

[AFMUG] fast.com speed issues.

2016-11-18 Thread Carl Peterson
I just brought up a Gig level3 connection and now fast.com shows speed tests in the ~5m range while speedtest.net shows correct speeds, i.e 200m on a 200m plan. If I drop BGP to Level3, fast.com speeds increase to 100m+ Two feeds in the same data center. Each connected to a juniper MX5 with fibe

[AFMUG] For Sale

2016-11-18 Thread Timothy Yent
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Re: [AFMUG] Email Server Options

2016-11-18 Thread Paul Stewart
I really like Surgemail …. great system for small to mid sized deployments. I wanted to use Surgemail for a larger installation (160k mailboxes) but project never got started - I think it could scale quite well though …. > On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Matt wrote: > > For those providing e