Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Bad connectors and connections don't cause problems? A bad or leaky ground on a Heliax cable will not cause problems? If I am wrong, I will ask Tessco for refund on trip to training Jaime Solorza On Aug 16, 2017 9:13 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: You are so wrong. On

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Your last line is why PIM testing and prevention is such a fast growing business. We have standards to meet and are held accountable at SCADA sites. We have inspectors check everything and final payment can be held up until everything passes. Always try to do it right first time...pays off in

[AFMUG] We are 5 x 5

2017-08-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Installed the 2 cameras, NAS and Cradlepoint and away we go...one camera in same site as gear and other 2 miles away linked by 5GHz Ubiquiti radios. I have WiFi access to Cradlepoint point as well for after hours access at sites without opening Gates. Video on my Ellipse Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-16 Thread Hardy, Tim
Just make sure that you meet the bit rate and payload requirements of 101.141. If you can't do that, getting the "widest channel you can" would be problematic. From: Af on behalf of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread David Milholen
These are all good answers but there is more. Definitely points to be made on other geographic areas and soil content. I do not believe for one second there isnt a tower that will NOT get struck. Thing about the energy that strikes is to channel that energy or disperse it somewhere it

Re: [AFMUG] ATT is coming to join the game....

2017-08-16 Thread David Milholen
Its my fault because we are challenging them in some caf areas for sure here. We have till Jan2018 to get our first round done for Caf phase2 I think were going to pull it off for sure. Seems like a bottomless pit till you get there though. On 8/16/2017 2:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

[AFMUG] ATT is coming to join the game....

2017-08-16 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Posted by a startup wisp in the area: http://www.elmoreautauganews.com/single-post/2017/08/16/ATT-launches-fixed-wireless-internet-in-Chilton-County-other-rural-and-underserved-areas-in-Alabama AT launches fixed wireless internet in Chilton County, other rural and underserved areas in Alabama

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Colin Stanners
If absolutely all the electronics are at the bottom, having just antennas and waveguide at the tower, I think it ahould be almost impossible to have a lightning strike damage gear. On Aug 16, 2017 5:29 AM, "David Milholen" wrote: I am asking for pure simple curiosity. How

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Nice. Sounds like a PANI type of system. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:10 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how far and much Great questions … and something I should have elaborated on for sure… Yes - each portion of the tower had it’s own isolated grounds

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-16 Thread Robert Andrews
i.e, do _not_ tattoo the answers on the inside of your wrist... On 08/15/2017 04:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: FTTFTTFFTF (The answers to a biology quiz in High School) *From:* Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Great questions … and something I should have elaborated on for sure… Yes - each portion of the tower had it’s own isolated grounds besides the tower itself. These went into a grounding grid built around the base of the site. The guy wires were of course all grounded out into their own grids

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Seems pointless not to ask for the widest channel you can get. Unless you're absolutely sure you're never going to need more bandwidth, then I guess you could be nice and try to leave some more spectrum open, but if there's even a tiny chance you're going to ever need more capacity, I'd just go

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-16 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
no surge suppressor in line On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Is there a possibility of a surge event? Is there a surge suppressor > inline? > > It seems suspicious that the db difference is for the traditional power > pins...

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Concise but not succinct ...there is no bullet proof solution. Best practices within budget allocated for location in question. Jaime Solorza On Aug 16, 2017 8:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I would think the answers depend on the part of the country you are in. > Florida has

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
So, was the tower mounted equipment isolated with its own ground wire? Curious about the improper isolation at the entry point. What was the proper way and what did the improper installation do to violate that? From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 8:05 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Paul Stewart
I’ve only ever encountered one tower (at former job) that was pretty “bulletproof” … The tower was 350ft and located on the highest elevation for about 100 square KM area … so it was a prime target for lightning strikes. I don’t know exactly how many times a year it took a hit but would

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
I would think the answers depend on the part of the country you are in. Florida has lightning like nowhere else. Northern mountain sites have ice falls. Coastal areas have salty fogs etc. And everywhere you have ass-hats that work for other companies that may mess up your installation. High

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-16 Thread Jon Langeler
How much is it? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 16, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, I have been looking at the matrix. It appears that almost all of them will work with a 2 foot dish at up to perhaps 10 miles. So the question will be what to ask for on the license. I presume I should ask for the widest channel I can get. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, August

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
No such thing as a bullet proof tower. At least not in my area. All the over-engineering in the world can't stop a direct strike. Some days you get lucky, some days not. It's a roll of the dice. On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:29 AM, David Milholen wrote: > I am asking for pure

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Correct, that is not an 11 GHz radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:02:53 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm fairly certain the land cover sites are built in to RM. No need to look for them elsewhere. To see if you're getting the data: File New Picture White Draw Edit Merge Pictures Land Cover Draw - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-16 Thread Mike Hammett
It still blows my mind that use of the SFP port requires a license. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday,

[AFMUG] how far and much

2017-08-16 Thread David Milholen
I am asking for pure simple curiosity. How far would you go and how much would you spend to have a bullet proof Tower site? I am looking for answers in small class tower to super duty types or leases. What I mean by bullet proof is How many time a year are you replacing gear due to weather