Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Josh, you are missing my point that one radio, half-duplex, still has the 1/n issue, which was what I said originally. And smack yourself for me ☺. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Radiomobile raster to polygon/shapefile

It's only great if it actually works. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Muehleisen" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 7:59:24 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Another Ceragon ODU Frequency Question

You sound fine on the antenna portion. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 18, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > I had the Low radio on the Low end, so that was correct. > > But are you saying for sure this radio cannot select that low of a

Re: [AFMUG] Another Ceragon ODU Frequency Question

The antennas have to pass both the Tx and Rx channels, so no, they're not high/low. They'll either be 10.0-11.7 or 10.7-11.7. 10835 is your low, so 11325 would be your high side, which doesn't fall into that diplexer range either. WTF? Is your license for 10835/11325 H+V? This is IP20/820C,

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

No shit. Really? I had no idea. :) One access radio, on backhaul radio. Integrated. No waiting for the access side airwaves to clear to forward data to the uplink like in store a forward repeating. Exactly what I said earlier. On Aug 18, 2017 7:03 PM, "Rory Conaway"

Re: [AFMUG] Another Ceragon ODU Frequency Question

I had the Low radio on the Low end, so that was correct. But are you saying for sure this radio cannot select that low of a channel? Also, now that I'm thinking of it, do the 3' Andrews dishes need to be High/Low? I was pretty sure the 3' dishes typically covered the entire 11GHz band, right?

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Only 1 radio is the backhaul. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering Yep, mesh pro is 3x3, simultaneous dual band. Mesh is 2x2 simultaneous dual band. Supports multiple

Re: [AFMUG] Another Ceragon ODU Frequency Question

On 8/18/17 4:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Ok, so maybe this is a problem and maybe not. But our license says we transmit LOW at channel 10835MHz. The sticker on the label of the LOW Ceragon ODU shows transmit at 10915-11207MHz. Does that mean I have the wrong ODU for this license? Yes,

Re: [AFMUG] Another Ceragon ODU Frequency Question

Yeah, that's not gonna work real well, or at all. Is this the link where you had them backwards? Didn't you end up swapping them? Or did you open them up and change the diplexers? On 8/18/2017 6:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Ok, so maybe this is a problem and maybe not. But our license

[AFMUG] Another Ceragon ODU Frequency Question

Ok, so maybe this is a problem and maybe not. But our license says we transmit LOW at channel 10835MHz. The sticker on the label of the LOW Ceragon ODU shows transmit at 10915-11207MHz. Does that mean I have the wrong ODU for this license? Or is the IP-20C radio that I have capable of that

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Yep, mesh pro is 3x3, simultaneous dual band. Mesh is 2x2 simultaneous dual band. Supports multiple non-simultaneous uplinks, with auto failover. On Aug 18, 2017 5:32 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Will check when I get through this damn traffic > > On Aug 18, 2017 5:30 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Will check when I get through this damn traffic On Aug 18, 2017 5:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Uh, no. Mesh pro is dual radio simultaneous, mu-mimo. 3x3 I believe as > well. Have a few on my yard. > > On Aug 18, 2017 5:13 PM, "Rory Conaway"

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Uh, no. Mesh pro is dual radio simultaneous, mu-mimo. 3x3 I believe as well. Have a few on my yard. On Aug 18, 2017 5:13 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: Yea but they are 2x2 AC radios. You start with 300Mbps, drop to 150, then 75Mbps and that's only on the 3rd radio so who

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Yea but they are 2x2 AC radios. You start with 300Mbps, drop to 150, then 75Mbps and that's only on the 3rd radio so who cares. I don't know any RV Parks guaranteeing 50Mbps clients. We tested 18Mbps on the 3rd hop all day long with 100 people connected to 3 APs so I'm pretty confident in it.

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Not possible. They were mistaken, or there were 1 or more other devices onsite or nearby on the same frequency,. Which might explain the disconnects. On Aug 18, 2017 4:02 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Does it make any sense that they could see use different SSIDs while

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Does it make any sense that they could see use different SSIDs while using WDS peering? Josh Reynolds wrote: Wds peering, from what I remember, only works with WEP. Yes, same ssid, same channel. On Aug 18, 2017 1:02 PM, "Jay Weekley"

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Store and forward does. Dual and triple radio designs help with this issue drastically. Basically a dedicated backhaul radio on a different frequency with multiple possible uplinks for redundancy. On Aug 18, 2017 2:58 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > That's one option.

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

That's one option. Doesn't mesh cut your bandwidth in half as well? Rory Conaway wrote: Just replace all the radios with Ubiquiti mesh radios. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 11:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Just replace all the radios with Ubiquiti mesh radios. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering ahh, if youre on a new firmware isn't wep completely gone if you went to the

Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says

Steve - sorry I missed this thread, am on vacation this week - but if you have any questions on the license, etc. hit me off-list. I would add that it is certainly odd that any radio would allow the user to drive the power past the distortion level at any modulation - one would have to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather

There is an alt-burning man going on out there that is bring the bodies in en-mass... On 08/18/2017 10:48 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I know everybody hates facebook, but I couldn't find the source video https://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningAmerica/videos/10156190892658812 and that was wednesday On

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

ahh, if youre on a new firmware isn't wep completely gone if you went to the newest firmware you have to tftp to downgrade On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > Yeah natively WDS cannot support WPA. OpenWRT and Apple baked their own > versions of WDS to

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

That's what baffles me because she swears the customers were able to connect to and use different SSIDs. Josh Reynolds wrote: Wds peering, from what I remember, only works with WEP. Yes, same ssid, same channel. On Aug 18, 2017 1:02 PM, "Jay Weekley"

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Yeah natively WDS cannot support WPA. OpenWRT and Apple baked their own versions of WDS to support it. I doubt they’d work cross-vendors though. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 11:14 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] WDS Peering

Wds peering, from what I remember, only works with WEP. Yes, same ssid, same channel. On Aug 18, 2017 1:02 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > We have a campground that we purchased that was setup for WiFi using a > UBNT Bullet as the primary AP with 2 Picos connected using

[AFMUG] WDS Peering

We have a campground that we purchased that was setup for WiFi using a UBNT Bullet as the primary AP with 2 Picos connected using WDS peering. We had to replace dead some equipment there and I had the tech give both Picos the same SSID as the primary access point which is how I understood it

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather

I know everybody hates facebook, but I couldn't find the source video https://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningAmerica/videos/10156190892658812 and that was wednesday On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:24 AM, wrote: > Have not seen a full eclipse since Feb of 79. And for that one I had to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather

Sounds like you had it really rough. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, wrote: > Have not seen a full eclipse since Feb of 79. And for that one I had to > rent a Piper Turbo Arrow

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather

Have not seen a full eclipse since Feb of 79. And for that one I had to rent a Piper Turbo Arrow to get above the clouds. Totally worth it. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather Taking it head on, eh? bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather

Taking it head on, eh? bp On 8/18/2017 9:18 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I am thinking of just cancelling the eclipse.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday weather

I am thinking of just cancelling the eclipse. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:12 AM, wrote: > Looks like it is improving. Only Missouri is showing clouds. (And a bit > of Kansas). >

[AFMUG] OT Monday weather

Looks like it is improving. Only Missouri is showing clouds. (And a bit of Kansas).

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

F that, shanks ponies On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Uber > > > On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:56, Jay Weekley > wrote: > > > > Sounds very awkward indeed but kudos for taking ownership of the > situation. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] how far and much

That's what R56 is. RUS has their own for telco CO's On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:25 PM David Milholen wrote: > 10-4 > > Now were gettin there. > > There has to be a standard or set of standards to follow so that the rest > will follow. > > > > On 8/16/2017 10:01 PM, Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

Uber > On Aug 18, 2017, at 10:56, Jay Weekley wrote: > > Sounds very awkward indeed but kudos for taking ownership of the situation. > > ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> HR manager or the person that fired them. >> >> -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley >> Sent:

[AFMUG] Mikrotik user manager + Paypal

One of our guys is trying to set up Mikrotk User Manager and Paypal. Where he's stuck is that Paypal accepts the payment, but the new user is never activated in the Mikrotik. He's been through a variety of solutions proposed in forums and is still not having any luck. Anybody been down this

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

Sounds very awkward indeed but kudos for taking ownership of the situation. ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: HR manager or the person that fired them. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? How do you decide

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

HR manager or the person that fired them. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 8:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who did what? How do you decide who drives the just fired guy home? Sounds like some awkward travel? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM

No joy. Updated to the latest version. Tried to force it to look at D: Still going to C: for elevation files. From: Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Make sure you have the path set correctly in two places; one is under your

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

How do you decide who drives the just fired guy home? Sounds like some awkward travel? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeah, I always have someone drive them home if they have been using a company rig to commute. But when they are done they are done. Quietly, discretely. I don't even give them a

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM

Both places have the correct path. I am going to change them to D: and put a folder there to see if I snap it out of its crazy behavior. From: Brian Webster Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 6:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Make sure you have the path set correctly in two

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

Yeah, I always have someone drive them home if they have been using a company rig to commute. But when they are done they are done. Quietly, discretely. I don't even give them a chance to mingle with other employees if possible. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Friday,

[AFMUG] DIN Terminal Strip

We typically set each site up with a Meanwell 10 amp 24 volt power supply, battery revert, PacketFlux sitemon, 24-48 converter etc. Then we add sync injectors as needed. What I would really like is a neat DIN mount terminal strip. We currently use something like this.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday Morning

What do you call yours? From: Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday Morning I really hope by trumpet, you mean trumpet, as in musical instrument On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I took the

Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says

Probably due to linearity issues in the power amp section. Higher order modulations are harder to amplify without distortion. There are methods like pre-distortion to help but that gets pricy. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net

Good to know. From: Jeremy Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] towerdirect.net Yeah, that is specifically who I am talking about. Ballard was outrageous compared to the pricing on towerdirect. On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Wimax 2

No. I bought one of this intel chips. This was a minipci Wifi/Wimax combination which was quite cheap. But the driver bound this to some medium sized carriers which where listed by intel. So I had a wimax BS a wimax Chipset in my laptop but I cant connect as Intel did not allow to. >

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

They were fired. That's the reason you show someone the door when you terminate them. There is absolutely ZERO expectation for that "employee" to do the "job" correctly or even not do sabotage on the way. bp On 8/17/2017 10:45 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: I'm curious

Re: [AFMUG] OT Monday Morning

We coated pennies to make them "look" like dimes. Thinking we'd make 9 cents on each transformation. bp On 8/17/2017 7:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I took the mercury out of a thermostat and totally coated my trumpet. It was very shiny for a while. I still have

Re: [AFMUG] Wimax 2

Intel "created" WiMax IIRC, or at least funded the majority of the development. Part of the thought was that they would make chip sets (ala WiFi), and drive down the cost (ala WiFi). Nobody really bought it, and WiFi variations caught up to it for the most part before the performance and/or

Re: [AFMUG] Radiomobile raster to polygon/shapefile

Mike, this is great info. I'm downloading QGIS now. Thank you! On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/134627/converting- > raster-presented-in-kml-to-polygon-using-arcgis-desktop > > Last time it wasn't quite the same,

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM

Make sure you have the path set correctly in two places; one is under your internet options under SRTM. There is where you set the path to store the files and the server to download from the internet. The second place you have to make sure you have set properly is when you are drawing the map.

Re: [AFMUG] Figuring out what our FCC application says

There is cooperation between FCC and SCT on licensed stuff like 2 way, cellular and licensed but Rio Grande not effective at blocking signals...in the 90s , the Chihuahua Cattle rancher association 800MHz system started interfering with local police..last about a week. Stranger things have to

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

True. They can sabotage a lot of stuff like changing passwords, stealing etc. Paul Stewart wrote: This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas in my opinion. Prepare their exit package, meet with them first thing when they arrive at work

Re: [AFMUG] Radiomobile raster to polygon/shapefile

https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/134627/converting-raster-presented-in-kml-to-polygon-using-arcgis-desktop Last time it wasn't quite the same, but I'm not sure what I did differently. There used to be a web site that did it, but I started looking into how to do it on my own in case

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

This is why you never give employees advance notice that their job is ending - too many grey areas in my opinion. Prepare their exit package, meet with them first thing when they arrive at work that day, give them the package and explain things briefly, then walk them out the door. It’s the

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM

SRTM would do that on a Long Lines site. I think there are corrected and uncorrected versions. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

I'd say that's a shitty expectation to place upon an employee. They're fired. End of story. It's shitty for morale for everyone around that person if they stick it out. Serious downer. I watched a single father sitting and crying at his job for half the shift after getting his slip (he had