Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Philip Rankin
Hey Josh, The new ePMP gigabit interfaces will work both polarities. You can actually use the old PMP100 power supplies with no issues that I have had so far. I have only left a couple in that mode because the existing customer wasn't home when we did the swap. All Cambium had to do was use a

Re: [AFMUG] GPS problems around 11:30 to 1:30 every night

2018-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
With mine being daylight times I was wondering about sun reflecting and doing something odd like heating a puck causing some faulty connection to separate, or some thermal thing On Tue, May 8, 2018, 12:54 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > No resolution. > > I started

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Mathew Howard
That's what I thought, until somebody told me otherwise... I think I tested using pins 1/2 and 3/6,but I don't remember for sure... I know for sure that they will work with the Cambium pinout though. I remember testing a few different modules, but the only ones I remember for sure were the old

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Carl Peterson
I think we can all agree that when you read something, the way it displays to you should have more space after a period at the end of a sentence then between words in the sentence. The question is wether this should be done manually or as a function of the font. I'm sure most of us agree that

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Jaime Solorza
Well, I could chime in now and claim that this list is a rare medium, well done. But perhaps it is better if I wrote it as a rare medium well done. Jaime Solorza On Tue, May 8, 2018, 5:15 PM John Osmon wrote: > Stop worrying about typeface/font. Just remember: >

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance Sources?

2018-05-08 Thread Keefe John
They have you rated at code 5040 which is Iron or Steel Erection.  The rate for this code is roughly 26% You should be rated at code 7600 which is Telecommunications and the rate is roughly 8%. Call Unitel and they'll get you straightened out. Keefe On 5/8/2018 6:02 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Robert Andrews
Had to be Apple, they always think they are right no matter who said what before them... On 05/08/2018 04:35 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I believe that is right, but who decided to drop the second space when it was a word processor? Doesn't make sense to me. Somebody post Wang I suppose. Wang

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I believe that is right, but who decided to drop the second space when it was a word processor? Doesn't make sense to me. Somebody post Wang I suppose. Wang was my first exposure to word processing. Then AppleWriter. Then P-Edit which became WordPerfect. Then Word. -Original

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Oxford comma got beat out of me in grade school for some reason. Spacing is pretty important. Tell me what this means: Godisnowhere -Original Message- From: John Osmon Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 5:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/8/18 16:15, John Osmon wrote: Stop worrying about typeface/font. Just remember: "single space" separates words "double space" indicates the end of a sentence For me it's quite literally a tell for how old someone is: before or after typewriters. When we were taught typing in

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread John Osmon
Stop worrying about typeface/font. Just remember: "single space" separates words "double space" indicates the end of a sentence If you fall for the "single space between sentences" rouse, you will need to rely on context to differentiate a sentence ending, vs. the space between words when

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance Sources?

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
WC for climbers is probably 20-25% of the payroll rate. And you pay that whether or not you are climbing. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 4:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance Sources? Hey all, My company is getting charged an assload a year for one

[AFMUG] Tower Climber Insurance Sources?

2018-05-08 Thread Sam Lambie
Hey all, My company is getting charged an assload a year for one tower climber (me). Supposedly, I have been reclassified as a steel and tower erector and such our Workmans Comp and Insurance has doubled. Whom do you guys use and what are the ball park figures you are seeing? We would like to get

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I have used a lot of these over the years: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Exeltech-Mx-Series-N-1-Redundant-Expandable-Inverter-System-NSN-6130015361815/273164348175?hash=item3f99dd2b0f From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I have had bad luck with other alpha products. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ? The Alpha technologies rep just left my office. He was pointing me at AMPS-24

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
Wonder what the minimal deployed cost is? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ? The Alpha technologies rep just left my office. He was pointing me at AMPS-24

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-08 Thread Adam Moffett
The Alpha technologies rep just left my office. He was pointing me at AMPS-24 http://broadband.alpha.com/download/critical_facilities_power/ups_solutions/indoor_ups/single_phase_ups/alpha_modular_power_system/amps24_hp/amps24_hp_datasheet.pdf I have no idea what it costs. The "24" means 24kw

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-08 Thread Carl Peterson
So if the variable width font you are using already includes the proper amount of space after a period, about 1.5 "spaces", when you add an extra space after a period are you really putting 2.5 "spaces" after the period. On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:01 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
.375 amp per wire. So .750 amp per pair. At least that is what I think I finally settled on. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting If that's right, would that mean 0.5amp on 4&5 and 0.25amp on 3&6,7&8 ? Is

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I have always used exeltech but I am really curious as to what other options may be out there too. I also need to be always online. I build a transfer switch that cuts in commercial power if the inverter fails. That was pretty easy. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2018 1:58

[AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-08 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Looking for 48 vdc inverters for data room applications in the range of 6-8 kw Can be a all in one system ( charger plus Inverter) , must be always online Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Any polarity or any pinout? Pretty sure the Ubnt AirMax NanoBeam 25dbi units will do gigabit but only do the old fashion 24v 45+ 78-. Reverse polarity seems awfully sketch to me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 8, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Mathew Howard
As far as I know, all of the ubnt gear with gigabit ports will take any poe polarity... As long as there's a pair with negative and a pair with positive, they'll turn on. I don't see that ubnt adding a second negative pair will really affect anything, unless netonix did that as well. On Tue, May

Re: [AFMUG] GPS problems around 11:30 to 1:30 every night

2018-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
No resolution. I started graphing the epmp satellites visible and tracked. Visible is always above 7 with an average of 12.44. However the tracked dips down to 0 around 7-12 at night with an average of 6.93. So what would make the GPS puck see the satellites but not track them? Why would it

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Adam Moffett
If that's right, would that mean 0.5amp on 4&5 and 0.25amp on 3&6,7&8 ? Is it a 0.5amp fuse? -- Original Message -- From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/8/2018 11:42:35 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting No, that is not true, it adds an

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Jeremy
This is the part that confuses me. If powering with a Netonix, there is no setting for 'add a ground on 3&6', yet somehow it works and maintains a gigabit connection when powering these devices. Perhaps they found that they could ground 3&6 on legacy devices as well and it would still work fine?

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Jeremy
No, that is not true, it adds an additional ground on 3&6. So to obtain a gigabit connection you have + on 4&5 and - on 3&6, 7&8. All of the present day UBNT gear is like this since they added gigabit Ethernet. When we upgrade we add a jumper to 3&6 to get it to negotiate at gigabit, but they

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread Jacob Turner
The Prism Gen 2 uses "standard" UBNT passive 24v POE. +4,5 -7,8. I've seen netonix switches claiming as much as 12 watts draw from one when running. I wouldn't be surprised if their startup draw may be a bit higher. On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 8:16 AM, wrote: > I need help in

[AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-08 Thread chuck
I need help in understanding a product failure. I have now had two customers with similar failures in my POE fuse product. The fuses are blowing. So far it is limited to the fuses on pins 4/5. One customer is using: UBNT 5AC Prism Gen 2 radio, Mikrotik 411 boards, using both poes and netonix