[AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread TJ Trout via Af
How far away are we from seeing a gpon olt sfp module that would be mikrotik compatible? Would be nice to use a ccr 12s and be able to serve hundreds of customers. Seems like we aren't real close though ?

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Go AE Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:05 AM, TJ Trout via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: How far away are we from seeing a gpon olt sfp module that would be mikrotik compatible? Would be nice to use a ccr 12s and be able to serve hundreds of customers. Seems like we ar

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
. So you have a long wait for that one. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of TJ Trout via Af Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? How far away are we from seeing a gpon olt sfp module

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
ber 19, 2014 3:04 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? How far away are we from seeing a gpon olt sfp module that would be mikrotik compatible? Would be nice to use a ccr 12s and be able to serve hundreds of customers. Seems like we aren&

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
ve a > long wait for that one. > > > > PC > > Blaze Broadband > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout via Af > *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:04 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-po

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
Wow, I wonder if they have ap notes. From: Gerard Dupont III via Af Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? There are actually multiple vendors selling SFP modules with built in EPON/GPON functionality that present themselves

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? Wow, I wonder if they have ap notes. From: Gerard Dupont III via Af <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? There are ac

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
To slightly hijack this. What is the fascination with gpon? >From what I can tell, cabling a plant for active is dirt cheap and is future proof. Gpon isn't. On Oct 19, 2014 1:04 AM, "TJ Trout via Af" wrote: > How far away are we from seeing a gpon olt sfp module that would be > mikrotik compat

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
+1 On Sunday, October 19, 2014, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: > Go AE > > Gino A. Villarini > @gvillarini > > > > On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:05 AM, TJ Trout via Af > wrote: > > How far away are we from seeing a gpon olt sfp module that would be > mikrotik compatible? Would be nice to use a ccr 12s

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
[mailto:pcon...@blazebroadband.com] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:17 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? +1 Wow. Overview The H640SFP is a Gigabit Passive Optical Network (GPON) Stick type ONT in a compact SFP package. The GPON Stick provides a

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Louis Arsenault via Af
Our reason for looking into it is heat and power. We may have 300+ customer coming into a single cabinet. We will be laying the fiber for active but if we can save on space by not needing 300+ sfp ports plus battery backup for all those switches. We are looking at the Planet switch which has 16 S

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
will make it more attractive. That said we are AE on our FTTH project. PC Blaze Broadband From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:20 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Jason Pond via Af
Forrest, Actually the new PON's designs are doing CWDN over PON which is essentially AE just over individual waves to each sub vs. single fiber to each sub. So the technology is catching ETA was stated around 1 to 2 years before it is available. Sincerely, Jason Pond Grizzly Internet, Inc On S

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
buying telco grade gear. If you are cobbling your own system with media converters etc then AE electronics will always be cheaper. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:20 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? To slightly hijack this

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
Planet has a switch with 24 SFP ports, or if you don't mind spending more per port there are a few companies out there that do 48 lasers in 1u using dual bidi SFPs (Calix being one option). Still not the density of GPON, but better than your example. On Sunday, October 19, 2014, Louis Arsenault vi

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Louis Arsenault via Af
The 16 port one is hardened. We can expect it to survive better in a fan vented enclosure. All the other sfp switches I have found are pretty much for inside an air conditioned enclosure. -Louis On Oct 19, 2014 2:18 PM, "Jason McKemie via Af" wrote: > Planet has a switch with 24 SFP ports, or

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Jason McKemie via Af
Ah, my fiber enclosures all have either A/C or thermoelectric cooling, so I haven't worried too much about that. The non hardened planet still specs up to 122 degrees as well, and I believe the Occam blade that I have deployed is even higher. On Sunday, October 19, 2014, Louis Arsenault via Af wr

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Force10 4810 48 10g ports Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Jason McKemie via Af mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Ah, my fiber enclosures all have either A/C or thermoelectric cooling, so I haven't worried too much about that. The non hardened planet still specs up to 1

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-19 Thread Gerard Dupont III via Af
The mgsw-28240f is the same temp ratings as the mgsw-24160f but with 24 ports and 4x 10g ports. On Sunday, October 19, 2014, Louis Arsenault via Af wrote: > The 16 port one is hardened. We can expect it to survive better in a fan > vented enclosure. > > All the other sfp switches I have found a

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-20 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
10GigE and 4x 40GigE . Not exactly non-blocking on the uplink, but probably enough. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini via Af" To: "" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:46:29

Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when?

2014-10-20 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
ions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Gino Villarini via Af" mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: "mailto:af@afmug.com>>" mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:46:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gpon or 10g-pon sfp...when? Force10 4810 48 10g ports Gino A. Villari