[AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Darin Steffl
Hey guys, We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground, we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figure

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site Hey guys, We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground, we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC database, could not ide

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'd guess that it might be one they just forgot to submit the license for after a PCN. I'd just give them a holler and let them know that you couldn't find it in the FCC license database and was wondering if it had been coordinated recently. -forrest On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Darin Steffl

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Hardy, Tim
Darin, Give me a set of coordinates and I’ll check it out for you. Tim From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 8:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site Hey guys, We've been looking at a new site fo

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
Guess that depends on your belief system. Screw everybody I am looking out for number one, do unto others, karma, etc. On Apr 21, 2015 7:27 PM, "Darin Steffl" wrote: > Hey guys, > > We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally > got to climb it last week to do the surve

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/21/15 6:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: Guess that depends on your belief system. Screw everybody I am looking out for number one, do unto others, karma, etc. "screw everybody" is the attitude illegal operators often have. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread Bill Prince
Don't worry about what is actually up there. Just ask your coordinator to engineer a link, and give him/her what your preferences are. If there are legitimate links there, the coordinator should find them. if they're not legitimate links, that will come out in the wash. bp On 4/21/2015 5:27

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I would definitely get photos, with the serials visible if you can before taking any action, if they dont own the tower, the landlord might be a good direction to go, no different than having a meth lab in a rental, landlords dont like nonsense On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread TJ Trout
Who spends 10k+ and doesn't get a license ? Come on guys. Stop wasting your time on this subject. Lol On Apr 21, 2015 10:06 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > I would definitely get photos, with the serials visible if you can before > taking any action, if they dont own the tower, the landlord

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol guys on ebay On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:16 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > Who spends 10k+ and doesn't get a license ? Come on guys. Stop wasting > your time on this subject. Lol > On Apr 21, 2015 10:06 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would definitely get phot

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have seen it before. On Apr 22, 2015 12:16 AM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Who spends 10k+ and doesn't get a license ? Come on guys. Stop wasting > your time on this subject. Lol > On Apr 21, 2015 10:06 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I would definitely get photos

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Lewis Bergman
Bill's approach is the one I take. Mainly because I couldn't care less about what is up there already. Just because there are links in the air doesn't mean there isn't room for you. If they aren't licensed and they end up on your frequency then they will have to move. On Apr 21, 2015 10:02 PM, "Bil

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It could just be paperwork issues, though 9 months is a bit long.I know we have had links pass PCN, filed the license, and then had the FCC return it due to minor errors. The link is legal to transmit based on the PCN but the license lags with the FCC. Mark On 4/21/15 8:54 PM, Forrest Ch

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Hardy, Tim
: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site It could just be paperwork issues, though 9 months is a bit long.I know we have had links pass PCN, filed the license, and then had the FCC return it due to minor errors. The link is legal to transmit based on the PCN but the license lags with the FCC

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh
-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:10 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site It could just be paperwork issues, though 9 months is a bit long.I know we have had links pass PCN, filed the license, and then

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Chuck McCown
+1 Don’t try to cause trouble at the FCC. You will regret it. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:54 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site I'd guess that it might be one they just forgot to submit the license for after

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Hardy, Tim
: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site They can be on file but in a return state which is harder to find. Mark On 4/22/15 9:18 AM, Hardy, Tim wrote: But in order to be legal and operate under Conditional Authorization, applications must be on file with the FCC. The

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
pretty much have to take action. Before getting the FCC involved, can’t you have your freq coordinator call their freq coordinator? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site +1 Don’t try to cause trouble at

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Mathew Howard
PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site > > I'd guess that it might be one they just forgot to submit the license > for after a PCN. > > I'd just give them a holler and let them know that you couldn't find it in > the FCC lic

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Chuck McCown
Anytime you get the FCC involved, you will get the FCC involved – in your life too. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:29 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site I'd try contacting them before I did anything else, it's a lot more likely

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe the FCC’s motto should be “Don’t make me come over there.” From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:36 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site Anytime you get the FCC involved, you will get the FCC involved – in your life too. From: Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread Caleb Knauer
w Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:29 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site > > I'd try contacting them before I did anything else, it's a lot more > likely that they just screwed up the licensing (or completely forgot

Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
:* Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:29 AM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site >> >> I'd try contacting them before I did anything else, it's a lot more >> likely that they just screwed up the l