Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Craig House
Drop them ethernet from your switch? or fiber if your concerned about their equipment Craig - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:18:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower I was tryin

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
I was trying to avoid another radio on the tower if at all possible. I'll probably start with just an integrated radio in the building and hope that it works. Worst case I'll probably end up with a Loco at 45* downtilt =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suit

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread David
Josh, depends on how you want to hand off service inside the building. If they just want WIFI everywhere do a ePMP with wifi firmware loaded integrated unit should work pointed at it from the tower If thats not doable use to ePMP PTP and hand off ethernet inside with an indoor AP On 10/22/2

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Jeremy
>> turned way down. >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:15 PM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower >> >> If you're not doing anything else with 3.65ghz, 3.65ghz NanoStations wor

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
ith the power > turned way down. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:15 PM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower > > If you're not doing anything else with 3.65ghz, 3.65ghz NanoStations work > pretty well f

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I would probably put them on 5160 in a narrow channel with the power turned way down. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:15 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower If you're not doing anything else with 3.65ghz, 3.65ghz NanoStations

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Mathew Howard
(303) 746-3590 > > Skype: danieldwhite > Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter > <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy > *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:13 AM >

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Daniel White
in.com/in/danielwhite84> LinkedIn: <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84> Twitter From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower On the ones that I cannot get g

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower On the ones that I cannot get good signal I use a bare loco on both sides, one pointed up and one pointed down, on a 5MHz channel. It will usually still get them 15Mbps, without sacrificing too much spectrum at the tower. On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
nal, you could > always use an external antenna and an inline coax attenuator. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:02 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower > > Does anyone have any tips for this? >

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
(305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:02:46 PM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower > > Does anyone have any tips for this? &

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
theres a billion different solutions all dependent on environment and aesthetics. The guy here the other day was talking about pointing the subscriber at a metal structure and using the reflection, nanobridges you can pull the reflector off of. If its close enough, direct connect fiber. get a cheap

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Jeremy
SNR and > modulation can be disappointing. > > If you’re convinced the only problem is too strong a signal, you could > always use an external antenna and an inline coax attenuator. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:02 AM > *To:* af@afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
can be disappointing. If you’re convinced the only problem is too strong a signal, you could always use an external antenna and an inline coax attenuator. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower Does

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2015-10-22 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
: "Josh Luthman" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:02:46 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower > Does anyone have any tips for this? > My only thought process was to do an integrated radio *inside* the office > building to keep

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Jeremy
I usually throw up a bare loco and turn it all the way down to 4 or -4 or whatever. I don't know what you'd do for a EPMP (bare?) On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Same property, big concrete in the way. Fiber would be way cost > prohibitive (for their bandwidth needs).

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Ty Featherling
Can you bounce it off another building? I had luck with that in one case like this. -Ty -Ty On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Same property, big concrete in the way. Fiber would be way cost > prohibitive (for their bandwidth needs). Also, we have no network on the > g

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Same property, big concrete in the way. Fiber would be way cost prohibitive (for their bandwidth needs). Also, we have no network on the ground - it's all 150' up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:04 PM, A

Re: [AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Adam Moffett
Same property? Bury a fiber to them? On 10/22/2015 12:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Does anyone have any tips for this? My only thought process was to do an integrated radio *inside* the office building to keep from hearing every AP on the tower. We've had some issues with nearby customers using

[AFMUG] Serving customers next door to tower

2015-10-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Does anyone have any tips for this? My only thought process was to do an integrated radio *inside* the office building to keep from hearing every AP on the tower. We've had some issues with nearby customers using a Force110/Beam hearing way too much of the tower so we moved to Integrated/Nano to