[AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices..

Is there any legal requirement for an ISP to forward these notices to their customers? Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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action to have the destination address corrected. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" To: "af" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:12:34 PM Subject: Re

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Only if you want shielded under safe harbor from a lawsuit. Best to just forward and duplicate somebody elses DMCA policy to your website whether you enforce it or not. They are handy for douchebag customers though Check the archives here, there was a big discussion on the dos and donts with some

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7- <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:17 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. Only if you want sh

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Forwarding notices isn't part of the safe harbor provisions for ISPs. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:17 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Only if you want shielded under safe harbor from a lawsuit. > Best to just forward and duplicate somebody elses DMCA policy to your >

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Care to expand? >>Forwarding notices isn't part of the safe harbor provisions for ISPs.

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> To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:30:52 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. > Anyone have a decent cover letter they use when forwarding DMCA complaints.. I > want something that just says “We are required to forward

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Sure, Takedown notices don't apply to ISPs which are "Mere Conduits", i.e you don't store the information, you just pass along whatever bits your subscriber is requesting from some third party. As a conduit, you are required to have an AUP which allows for the termination of service to repeat inf

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has any teeth to it though. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. Forwarding notices isn't part of the safe harbor provisions for ISPs. On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 2:17 PM, That On

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exactly in state and federal law does it mandate that I have to do as they say in any of these letters? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices

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gt; Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > From: "Peter Kranz" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:30:52 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. > Anyone have a decent cover let

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wrong.. > > > :) > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Pet

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bad idea. Since we are not required to forward the notices, I guess I might just happen to lose those that demand payment. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. Sure, Takedown notices d

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> legislation. Some are currently predicting the TPP will do this anyway, > based on a Wikileaks document. Hard to see how TPP has any teeth to it > though. > > > *From:* Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Take

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; From: "Sterling Jacobson" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:32:34 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. > Has anyone ever actually had any of their customers involved in a court > battle? > Or even h

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Decided to go with this: Unwired has received a notification by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, reporting an alleged infringement of one or more copyrighted works made on or over Unwired’s High-Speed Internet service (the 'Service'). The copyright owner has identified the Intern

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Very "officially" Peter. Ours is a little more down home, if you know what I mean. bp On 10/13/2015 3:51 PM, Peter Kranz wrote: Decided to go with this: Unwired has received a notification by a copyright owner, or its authorized agent, reporting an alleged infringement of one or more copy

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10-207- <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. Very "officially" P

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I also love that the copyright industry uses “IP” to mean “Intellectual Property”. From: Peter Kranz Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 6:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. Yhea I know.. its lame.. we pass these things along and people

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> To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 6:51:59 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. > Decided to go with this: > Unwired has received a notification by a copyright owner, or its authorized > agent, reporting an alleged infri

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ranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com <mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:56 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject

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he matter. I’d rather just delete them. > > > > > *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > Mobile: 510-207-0000 > pkr...@unwiredltd.com > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Bill P

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On 10/13/15 16:49, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: This is very good, however I believe you need to add what action you are asking your customer to take... It is appropriate to ask your customer to:- 'Please remove the copyright contents, as identified by the notice from any or all public/file sharing app

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Same here. Coffee shops, public places with free WiFi. On Oct 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: > On 10/13/15 16:49, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > >> This is very good, however I believe you need to add what action you are >> asking your customer to take... >> >> It is appropriate to ask your cus

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- Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Eric Kuhnke" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:05:00 PM > Su

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m: *"Eric Kuhnke" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:05:00 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. > > Same here. Coffee shops, public places with free WiFi. > On Oct 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Seth Mattinen&quo

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e" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:05:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. Same here. Coffee shops, public places with free WiFi. On Oct 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Seth Mattinen" wrote: On 10/13/15 16:49

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;Ken Hohhof" > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:31:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. > Here in the U.S., I believe the FCC Open Internet Order exempts premises like > Starbucks (I forget the terminology they use

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I'm going to reply here instead of picking on any reply. .. As far as I can tell there is absolutely no requirement under the law to forward these at all. But please talk to a lawyer. You have to have an AUP which provides for termination of repeat infringers, but it doesn't say that you have to

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W 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" > To: "af" > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:08:04 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down no

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i, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------ > > *From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" > *To: *"af" > *Sent: *Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:08:0

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porn movies? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:12 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Take down notices/Copyright infringement notices.. The LAW says that as a conduit we are not legally responsible for infingement which occurs across our networks, as long

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ussion kind of reminds me of the saying what is the >> difference between a recession and depression. Recession is when you >> neighbor loses his job, and a depression is when one looses his own job. >> >> Of Course YMMV. >> >> Regards >> >>

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er bases, that you are still getting > enough DMCA notices to worry about? Is this on 900 MHz networks that are too > slow for live streaming? Or is this related to bootleg porn movies? > > > From: Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:li...@packetflux.com> &

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re using tech like VPNs and NNTP. >> >> What is different about your customer bases, that you are still getting >> enough DMCA notices to worry about? Is this on 900 MHz networks that are >> too slow for live streaming? Or is this related to bootleg porn movies? >> >>