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- Original Message -
From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:03:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
It's clearly not hard. It's obviously not expensive. I'm already doing i
omeone remind me again why I have my own recursive DNS.
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>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 4/2/2018 3:22:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
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>> i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google
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>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
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to:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google
- Original Message -
*From:* Seth Mattinen <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM
*Subje
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> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
>
> On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> > I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of gear and reliability
> > built in. They also host two of the root dns servers. Thei
i saw 18 ms to cloudfair, 15 ms to google
- Original Message -
From: Seth Mattinen
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
> I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of g
f@afmug.com
Sent: 4/3/2018 11:31:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
What’s in it for them?
From:Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1 (2ms RTT).
Might be inclined to do a blend.
On 4/3/18 8:17 AM, Robert wrote:
Cloudflare has also screwed-the-pooch at least once in a major way that
got national headlines...
There's a Quad9 9.9.9.9 node here, and of all of them, PCH's motivations
are the least commercial in nature.
For Google or Cloudflare?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/3/2018 8:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
What’s in it for them?
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2018 9:25 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1
What’s in it for them?
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 9:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1 (2ms RTT).
Might be inclined to do a blend.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/3/2018 8:21 AM
; <c...@infowest.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/3/2018 11:28:40 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
Wondering if Google is going to up their game and announce 8.8.8.8 from
their GGC cache clusters so it’s faster/closer than the 1.1.1.1
Cloudflare clusters.
On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Bill P
Wondering if Google is going to up their game and announce 8.8.8.8 from their
GGC cache clusters so it’s faster/closer than the 1.1.1.1 Cloudflare clusters.
> On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1
We seem to be close to both 8.8.8.8 (3ms RTT), and 1.1.1.1 (2ms RTT).
Might be inclined to do a blend.
bp
On 4/3/2018 8:21 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Well then. I’ll put a few more routers in my network. So they have to
put equipment in my datacenter. :)
On Apr 3,
Well then. I’ll put a few more routers in my network. So they have to put
equipment in my datacenter. :)
> On Apr 3, 2018, at 11:18, Darin Steffl wrote:
>
> Cloudflare has posted that their goal is to be within 10ms of every ISP in
> the world. So they're adding their
Cloudflare has posted that their goal is to be within 10ms of every ISP in
the world. So they're adding their to gear to regional datacenter's and
peering exchanges, not just major ones.
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018, 10:16 AM Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl
Cloudflare has also screwed-the-pooch at least once in a major way that
got national headlines...
On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
The new cloudflare dns is 3ms away from our core, opendns and Google are
12ms away.
And I believe that cloudflare can run way more reliable dns than we
On 4/3/18 8:09 AM, Darin Steffl wrote:
I've seen cloudflare racks and they have a ton of gear and reliability
built in. They also host two of the root dns servers. Their cache rate
will be much higher than our own servers as well.
Oh well I host 6 root servers for redundancy: D, E, F, J, K,
; simple, we would be looking for something that we could do regular firmware
>> updates only, and monitor with SNMP just like all our other network devices.
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>> Regards,
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>> David Coudron
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>> *From:
t we could do regular firmware
> updates only, and monitor with SNMP just like all our other network devices.
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> Regards,
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> David Coudron
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> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:04 AM
> *
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David Coudron
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 9:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
It's clearly not hard. It's obviously not expensive. I'm already doing it and
have been for years. But it's more than $0.
I'v
because it
> > > actually makes sense or are we doing it because we've always done
> > it and
> > > we can't imagine another way?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Original Message --
> > > From: &qu
al Message --
> From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>
<mailto:li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> <mailto:af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
imagine another way?
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Original Message --
> > From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>>
> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> > Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM
> > Subject:
d we can't imagine another way?
-- Original Message --
From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net <mailto:li...@mtin.net>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
You have your own DNS for one huge reason. Geo
<mailto:li...@mtin.net>>
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
You have your own DNS for one huge reason. GeoLocation for when it
comes to Content Networks such as Netflix. One of the mechanisms they
employ is using DN
- Original Message --
From: "Justin Wilson" <li...@mtin.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/3/2018 8:48:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
You have your own DNS for one huge reason. GeoLocation for when it
comes to Content Networks such as Netflix. One of the mechanisms they
emplo
*Date:*Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 4:33 AM
*To:*af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
Because it's good for your customers, and it should take very
little time to set one up.
The main reason for this is so that websites serve data from the
operate our own anycasted DNS …actually two of them. One set of
> servers for recursive caching and another set for authoritative DNS.
>
> Paul
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>
> *From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "Forrest Christian (List
> Account)" <li...@packetflux.com>
ristian (List
> Account)" <li...@packetflux.com>
> Reply-To: <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 4:33 AM
> To: af <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
>
> Because it's good for your customers, and it should take very little time to
oun...@afmug.com> on behalf of "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
<li...@packetflux.com>
Reply-To: <af@afmug.com>
Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 4:33 AM
To: af <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
Because it's good for your customers, and it should take very little
sage --
> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 4/2/2018 3:22:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
>
> Yes, bunch of discussions over the past few days on NANOG and some of the
> vendor mailing lists.
>
> On Mon, Apr 2,
Someone remind me again why I have my own recursive DNS.
-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 4/2/2018 3:22:57 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
Yes, bunch of discussions over the past few days on NANOG and some of
th
That is my dream too. Play with grandkids more. But I keep starting
businesses...
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 2:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
On 4/2/18 13:30, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
So many lists, so many time. It would
On 4/2/18 13:30, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
So many lists, so many time. It would cut into my TV watching I am
afraid...
I used to work really hard all the time, but since but August of last
year I decided it's been enough for what I'm getting out of it and
shifted focus to remodeling, TV,
So many lists, so many time. It would cut into my TV watching I am afraid...
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 2:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
If you guys aren't on NANOG, you really should be.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:50 PM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet
If you guys aren't on NANOG, you really should be.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:50 PM Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 4/2/18 12:43, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > Wonder how they got that IP address.
>
> APNIC has it and agreed to let cloudflare use it or something,
> apparently there's
From APNIC..
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 2, 2018, at 3:43 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> Wonder how they got that IP address.
>
> From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new D
On 4/2/18 12:43, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Wonder how they got that IP address.
APNIC has it and agreed to let cloudflare use it or something,
apparently there's some upset about it not being a transparent process,
but I don't follow APNIC happenings. I guess they felt left out from the
public
Wonder how they got that IP address.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2018 1:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new DNS
It's not
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
You sure it's not an April's Fool gag?
Jaime S
It's not
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:24 PM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
> You sure it's not an April's Fool gag?
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 1:21 PM Travis Johnson wrote:
>
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You sure it's not an April's Fool gag?
Jaime Solorza
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 1:21 PM Travis Johnson wrote:
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> https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protect-your-privacy-1824256587
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> Faster and more private than Google or others. :)
>
> Travis
>
>
I fail to see how this is going to protect the user from their evil spying
ISP in any meaningful way.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:
> https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protec
> t-your-privacy-1824256587
>
> Faster and more private than
Yes, bunch of discussions over the past few days on NANOG and some of the
vendor mailing lists.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 2:21 PM Travis Johnson wrote:
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> https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protect-your-privacy-1824256587
>
> Faster and more private than Google or
https://gizmodo.com/how-to-speed-up-your-internet-and-protect-your-privacy-1824256587
Faster and more private than Google or others. :)
Travis
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