Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumptin

2017-02-06 Thread David Milholen
acebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 6, 2017 1:32:08 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumpt

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2017-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 1:32:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumptin Wait until you see the traffic chart for Netflix or Google (Youtube) traffic flows at a major IX point..

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2017-02-06 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Wait until you see the traffic chart for Netflix or Google (Youtube) traffic flows at a major IX point... We're talking about N number of 100GbE connections to the peering/IX fabric switch, where N is frequently a number larger than 1. On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I ha

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2017-02-06 Thread Rory Conaway
: Monday, February 6, 2017 7:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumptin Agreed. CNN (well, their CDN partners) just have that much capacity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://ww

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2017-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
1:19:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumptin On 1/25/17 09:03, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have never understood how you can set up a streaming server and > deliver hundreds or thousands of streams without having our upstream BW > be stream BW X # of streams. Each stream ha

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2017-01-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I feel better now. I always wondered this, but was afraid to ask, assumed it was just something i should know, and my incompetence didnt need to be shown On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: > Assuming you have set top boxes and you are engaged in content delivery > (which is

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2017-01-25 Thread Simon Westlake
Assuming you have set top boxes and you are engaged in content delivery (which is not what I thought Chuck meant.) I assumed this was faceless provider X delivering to unrelated provider Y. If you are involved in the receipt and delivery of the service then, yeah, there's a ton of things you ca

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2017-01-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Live TV from content providers comes in via unicast. Then locally multicast to set tops. On demand and DVR is unicast. On Jan 25, 2017 11:19 AM, "Simon Westlake" wrote: > Yeah, there are a bunch of ways if you have cooperation. What I really > meant was if content provider X sets up some kind of

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2017-01-25 Thread Simon Westlake
Stuff like this is why Procera/Sandvine/etc is getting so popular. On 1/25/2017 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Wow *From:* Simon Westlake *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumptin Nope, it is all unicast! Big pipes. On

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2017-01-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/25/17 09:03, Chuck McCown wrote: I have never understood how you can set up a streaming server and deliver hundreds or thousands of streams without having our upstream BW be stream BW X # of streams. Each stream has its own session, right? So with folks watching the coronation via CNN stre

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2017-01-25 Thread Simon Westlake
Yeah, there are a bunch of ways if you have cooperation. What I really meant was if content provider X sets up some kind of online video streaming, and WISP Y comes along and has a bunch of customers watching content, it is almost certainly going to be a unicast stream to every subscriber. On

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2017-01-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Wow From: Simon Westlake Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 'splain me sumptin Nope, it is all unicast! Big pipes. On 1/25/2017 11:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have never understood how you can set up a streaming server and de

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2017-01-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not always. I just heard about two cool methods the other day. One uses a single input switch port and then port mirroring. Another method was actually outbound in-rack GPON and letting the hardware layer itself do the replication to multiple local servers, then from those outward to geographic di

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2017-01-25 Thread Rob Genovesi
No body was streaming because everyone was THERE otherwise I assume they would use a CDN service On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have never understood how you can set up a streaming server and deliver > hundreds or thousands of streams without having our upstream B

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2017-01-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
1 stream to X number of servers. X servers unicast or multicast to geographic/Local servers. Multicast or unicast from those local servers out to the endpoints. On Jan 25, 2017 11:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I have never understood how you can set up a streaming server and deliver > hundreds

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2017-01-25 Thread Simon Westlake
Nope, it is all unicast! Big pipes. On 1/25/2017 11:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I have never understood how you can set up a streaming server and deliver hundreds or thousands of streams without having our upstream BW be stream BW X # of streams. Each stream has its own session, right? So with