Re: [agi] my AGI 2021 paper (for critique and comments...)

2021-07-09 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
On 7/10/21, YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) wrote: > On 7/10/21, immortal.discover...@gmail.com > wrote: >> IOW kinda like that page that explains GPT real good, >> it, didn't, remarkably, despite all those kindergarten images. And he >> thinks >> he did a real good job! > > You just need to follow the

Re: [agi] my AGI 2021 paper (for critique and comments...)

2021-07-09 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
On 7/10/21, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > IOW kinda like that page that explains GPT real good, > it, didn't, remarkably, despite all those kindergarten images. And he thinks > he did a real good job! You just need to follow the calculations in the Transformer to verify my statement. I

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread Mike Archbold
On 7/9/21, James Bowery wrote: > Note that I avoided the word "understand" in my post, and, instead, used > the word "comprehend". Others have brought in the notion of "value" to the > notion of "understanding"; they bring up "relevance" to one's "goals" etc. > I suppose, therefore, one might

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread James Bowery
Note that I avoided the word "understand" in my post, and, instead, used the word "comprehend". Others have brought in the notion of "value" to the notion of "understanding"; they bring up "relevance" to one's "goals" etc. I suppose, therefore, one might say that one achieves "understanding" when

Re: [agi] my AGI 2021 paper (for critique and comments...)

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
Ok but better make it really intuitive cuz I'm already getting the not-intuitive feeling. IOW kinda like that page that explains GPT real good, it, didn't, remarkably, despite all those kindergarten images. And he thinks he did a real good job! In my AGI work there is 2 things there,

Re: [agi] my AGI 2021 paper (for critique and comments...)

2021-07-09 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
On 7/7/21, Mike Archbold wrote: > I'd benefit from a few paragraphs of appeals to intuition before > diving into the formalisms, although I know the style for this type of > paper is a sort of compactness. In fact my theory does not make use of category theory in any significant way... not even

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Friday, July 09, 2021, at 6:07 PM, WriterOfMinds wrote: > To *understand* a concept or statement is to determine its relevancy or > relationship to one's personal goals, experiences, or world-model. "To *understand* a concept or statement" = thing "is to determine its relevancy or

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread WriterOfMinds
Here's my crack at it: To *understand* a concept or statement is to determine its relevancy or relationship to one's personal goals, experiences, or world-model. I recently read this paper and thought it was pretty interesting (and a relatively easy read): 

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread Mike Archbold
Thanks James and Immortal. My plan is for the group to discuss the highlights of pretty much each definition of understanding I accumulate (details forthcoming)... On 7/9/21, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote: > I.e. not so much is it about what you understand, but rather what you > already

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
I.e. not so much is it about what you understand, but rather what you already know (memories to match). -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf91e2eafa2515120-M14275c456b3eec1dd90dc67b Delivery

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
@JB, knowing all of pi would be useful. Knowing how to program an algorithm that generates all of pi for you would be useful too (the inventor probably is a handy smart guy, hence is doing better that some other cave man). Both are goodeither way you know the patterns and have some answers,

Re: [agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread James Bowery
Let's take an autistic savant who memorizes the digits of pi to a million decimal places as an example of someone who "knows pi" but does not "comprehend pi". Let's now take Archemedies who described a method of finding the digits of pi by construction of regular polygons, to any desired degree

[agi] Re: How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
My definition of "understanding": In this universe, there is things/ problems/ states, and you can't "know" how to solve them i.e. what will happen after thing_1 (ex. 1>2/3/4), and pick which future you want (1>69), unless you are dealing with patterns. So to solve a state is to know what

[agi] MECA Sapiens Blueprint

2021-07-09 Thread Robert Levy
Anyone read this and have thoughts on it? https://glasstree.com/shop/catalog/the-meca-sapiens-blueprint_816/ -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tae7e51398972d7c1-M3f8d88d8821bdcd39510d578 Delivery

[agi] How does a machine "understand"? What is your definition of "understanding" for an AGI?

2021-07-09 Thread Mike Archbold
You've got an opinion. We all do! I'm doing a survey of opinions about "understanding" for the meetup --> https://www.meetup.com/Northwest-Artificial-General-Intelligence-Meetup-Group/ 2 events are envisioned this summer: 1) Survey -- discuss tribal opinions in the AGI community as well as

[agi] Re: openAI's code github_Co-Pilot

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
we can truly call them a cadet academy now lol -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T3fa8bc201448e1ef-M81a0a4cf9d4d686a420447fb Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] openAI's code github_Co-Pilot

2021-07-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
Odd this was not on their blog yet. Only front page... https://openai.com/ -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T3fa8bc201448e1ef-Mae5b65c11f21eafd98d881fe Delivery options: