Re: [agi] Uhm, Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Function?

2020-06-11 Thread Stanley Nilsen
I suggest that there are more than 500 reasons that you shouldn't be in existence, yet you are. If one of your 500 reasons were refuted, you would still have 499 to argue about.  Not much point in discussing is there? Stan (me), once bold, brash, cocksure, atheist and obviou

Re: [agi] Microsoft and Boogaloo.

2020-05-27 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 5/27/20 12:50 AM, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: It's not really clear to me how we can respond to this. I sure as hell don't want a world dominated by Microsoft's AGI. I want AGI completely unecumbered by external constraints for my own private use. Microsoft has a culture of acting as if no o

[agi] Purpose problem.

2020-05-27 Thread Stanley Nilsen
Speaking of Architecture, speaking to Immortal D. What is in your architecture to deal with the purpose problem?  Note: I am not asking to start a discussion about "friendly AI."  What I want to know is how the heavily neural net construction of Immortal Discoveries

Re: [agi] Metaprogramming: the forgotten art.

2020-05-26 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 5/25/20 2:36 PM, Alan Grimes via AGI wrote: Ok, it seems we have lost a concept here, that of metaprogramming. In classic interpreted languages such as Lisp, etc, it was possible to write programs that write programs. When you think of AGI that needs to optimize itself for its platform and

Re: [agi] Mindlessness.

2020-05-23 Thread Stanley Nilsen
ou are is God's gift to you, what you become is your gift to God.”On 5/23/20 6:02 AM, Matt Mahoney wrote:On Thu, May 21, 2020, 5:25 PM Stanley Nilsen <senil...@ghvalley.net> wrote: I don't see how belief in the possibility AI is rea

Re: [agi] Mindlessness.

2020-05-21 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 5/20/20 10:24 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: But anyone who believes that AI is possible must logically reject this idea if they accept that all human behavior is computable. It's probable that human behavior is computable - but it takes an immense amount of data - both the present and the p

Re: [agi] Mindlessness.

2020-05-20 Thread Stanley Nilsen
Watched a couple episodes of "Upload" on Amazon Prime.  It helps to give some perspective on the difference between "continue to have experiences" and living life.  I personally look at eternal life as only being worth living because it is a rich experience that was created

Re: [agi] Re: (video) How can I improve my AGI architecture?

2020-05-15 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 5/9/20 3:41 AM, immortal.discover...@gmail.com wrote:I'm really excited if even just one of yous can advance the AGI design I'm at. I've seen a lot of ANN variants like variants of GANs, LSTMs, Autoencoders, etc etc, they seem to have things like residual connection

Re: [agi] AGI questions

2020-02-22 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 2/22/20 1:22 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote: ...   I recommend looking up the "orthogonality thesis" and doing some reading thereon.  Morality, altruism, "human values," etc. are distinct from intellectual capacity, and must be intentionally incorporated into AGI if you w

Re: [agi] AGI questions

2020-02-21 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 2/21/20 9:24 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 12:03 PM Stanley Nilsen <senil...@ghvalley.net> wrote:comments inserted below (always appreciate Matt's posts.) On 2/20/20 8:05 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:The goal of AGI is to aut

Re: [agi] AGI questions

2020-02-21 Thread Stanley Nilsen
comments inserted below (always appreciate Matt's posts.) On 2/20/20 8:05 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:The goal of AGI is to automate human labor. It requires solving hard problems like vision, language, robotics, art, and modeling human behavior. We may have different ideas of the goal of AGI.

Re: [agi] Deviations from generality

2019-11-08 Thread Stanley Nilsen
Hi Tim, Interesting that your talk mentions simplicity and Occam's razor but doesn't seem to head in the simple direction. Jumping down into the laws of physics is one example.  Weren't people fairly intelligent when they knew little about physics and the laws of nature?  Yes, there is the "re

Re: [agi] The Job market.

2019-10-05 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 10/5/19 6:00 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: It probably takes a few hundred bits to describe the laws of physics. But an even simpler model, requiring vastly more computation, is that all possible universes with all possible laws of physics exist, and we necessary observe one where it is poss

Re: [agi] Abstraction is not simple

2018-11-02 Thread Stanley Nilsen
"So exactly what do you hope to accomplish?" Great question Matt.  It haunts me and I imagine that others are considering what their answer might be. In re-reading your post there are a couple of statements that help to clarify for me what I want to accomplish.  For example: "Automating lab

Re: [agi] Abstraction is not simple

2018-10-29 Thread Stanley Nilsen
Greetings Alan, I'm thinking that we may be like the blind men feeling the elephant.  Not sure we are looking at the same components.   My concept of abstraction and promoters is only meant to be a mechanism to solve a very small function of an AGI.   The problem to be solved is how to choose

Re: [agi] Abstraction is not simple

2018-10-29 Thread Stanley Nilsen
response's below On 10/29/18 1:32 AM, Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI wrote: The question is, how should such a component of abstraction/deabstraction be successfully engineered as a component of an AGI service? Considering what you shared about

Re: [agi] Abstraction is not simple

2018-10-28 Thread Stanley Nilsen
On 10/28/18 6:14 PM, Jim Bromer via AGI wrote:... thinking of how abstraction might be used to produce recognition. First of all, a useful abstraction might rely on an algorithm not only to get it out of a data (or a 'text') but the data or some characteristic of the data might need to be p

Re: [agi] High-end IQ

2018-10-18 Thread Stanley Nilsen
Steve, My explanation relates to my view of intelligence and goes something like this... Life consists of accumulating know how and a set of values. Together these lead a person to gain "opportunity."  What is important about opportunity is that it's not opportunity un

Re: [agi] Architecture 101 - Units of Intelligence

2018-08-31 Thread Stanley Nilsen
 https://becominghuman.ai/the-third-wave-of-ai-1579ea97210b  and  https://medium.com/@petervoss/my-ai-articles-f154c5adfd37 From: Stanley Nilsen Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 11:10 AMTo: Stefan Reich via AGI Subject: Re: [agi] Architecture 101

Re: [agi] Architecture 101 - Units of Intelligence

2018-08-31 Thread Stanley Nilsen
user input, bot output & facts.There are also meta rules and facts (those which talk about other rules and facts).Stanley Nilsen <senil...@ghvalley.net> schrieb am Fr., 31. Aug. 2018 04:59:A few thoughts...If an intelligent devic

[agi] Architecture 101 - Units of Intelligence

2018-08-30 Thread Stanley Nilsen
A few thoughts...If an intelligent device is to be planned and built according to a modular architecture, it would be appropriate to determine what the “storage” of the intelligence looks like. What will the device contain that makes it intelligent? Are these “blocks” of

Re: [agi] Anyone interested in sharing your projects / data models

2018-06-14 Thread Stanley Nilsen
Greetings Duncan, I looked at the document you attached.  I appreciate that you at least made an attempt to come to an "architecture."  In the past (several years) this list has discussed the AGI architecture several times.  Usually the discussion doesn't last long and quickly diverges to more