Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-14 Thread immortal . discoveries
Wait, notice this: we have DNA and meme spreadings/infections/boastings, we love it and push it everywhere. But DNA and meme are not the human brain that both DNA and memes create. The human brain consists of a prediction system/algorithm, a reward system, while the memes are memories in that b

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-14 Thread TimTyler
On 2021-09-10 23:25:PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: Evolution only cares about how many offspring you have, but motivation to play and learn skills makes you more likely to survive and have more. I don't think this is a trait we want in machines that are supposed to serve us. The goal is not runaway

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-10 Thread immortal . discoveries
Sure you can make a super duper HQ (RTS pun, good game, great songs; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KAVfhqH0zg) GPT-9 that predicts really really good, but it won't ever nag about AGI all day, like me. And that's a problem. On the bright side, It will not nag about the common words like the, c

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-10 Thread Matt Mahoney
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021, 12:21 AM wrote: > > I already know how to make it emerge a desire to maintain input, learning, > and output. You need this ability if you want AGI. > No you don't. You only need to model it in humans so you can predict human behavior. Then you program a robot to carry out t

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-10 Thread Rob Freeman
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:59 PM Ben Goertzel via AGI wrote: > ah yes these are very familiar. materials! ;) > > Linas Vepstas and I have been batting around Coecke's papers for an > awfully long time now... Good. I know I mentioned it to Linas in 2019, and possibly even 2010, but I didn't know

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
ah yes these are very familiar. materials! ;) Linas Vepstas and I have been batting around Coecke's papers for an awfully long time now... On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 9:54 PM Rob Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:36 PM Ben Goertzel via AGI > wrote: >> >> ... >> Working out the specifics

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Rob Freeman
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:36 PM Ben Goertzel via AGI wrote: > ... > Working out the specifics of the Curry-Howard mapping from MeTTa to > intuitionistic logics, and from there to categorial semantics, is one > of the things on our plate for the next couple months Ah, if that is to be worked out

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
>> -- design of a new programming language (MeTTA = Meta Type Talk) >> designed to serve as the type system and formalism behind the new >> version of OpenCog Atomspace. A lot of math/CS work has been done in >> the last 9 months leading up to this design... > > > Meta Type Talk... > > Is it a fai

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread immortal . discoveries
On Thursday, September 09, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: > If you program your AGI to positively reinforce input, learning, and output, > will it develop senses of qualia, consciousness, and free will? I mean in the > sense that it is motivated like we are to preserve the reward signal b

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Rob Freeman
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 1:49 PM Ben Goertzel via AGI wrote: > ... > Our OpenCog/SNet team is spending a lot of time on down-to-earth > stuff, some of which we'll talk about in some future AGI Discussion > sessions > > Mainly > > -- design of a new programming language (MeTTA = Meta Type Talk) > d

Re: [agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Goertzel via AGI
On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 5:06 PM wrote: > > I dont think Man as a group has much chance in getting that to happen. Need > to get more down to earth I think. Our OpenCog/SNet team is spending a lot of time on down-to-earth stuff, some of which we'll talk about in some future AGI Discussion sessio

[agi] Re: AGI discussion group, Sep 10 7AM Pacific: Characterizing and Implementing Human-Like Consciousness

2021-09-09 Thread magnuswootton81
I dont think Man as a group has much chance in getting that to happen.   Need to get more down to earth I think. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5e30c339c3bfa713-Mfd418db08fc3c233d86760a4 Delivery