Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-14 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
where the slugs are called "riders". Better ride than be ridden, especially when fuckers like Altman are driving the world! In his below interview, he outsources the worries, despite being the only person in the world currently in possession of resources to address the said worries: https://www.

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-14 Thread James Bowery
Currently reading "The Puppet Masters" where the slugs are called "riders". On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 11:21 AM Keyvan M. Sadeghi < keyvan.m.sade...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > That you find "tyranny for the good of their victims" "philosophical" >> rather than "direct" indicates your ethical poverty. >

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-14 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
That you find "tyranny for the good of their victims" "philosophical" > rather than "direct" indicates your ethical poverty. > More wise words from under the blanket ;) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-14 Thread James Bowery
That you find "tyranny for the good of their victims" "philosophical" rather than "direct" indicates your ethical poverty. On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 8:20 AM Keyvan M. Sadeghi < keyvan.m.sade...@gmail.com> wrote: > The Sam Altmans of the world are bound and determined to exercise tyranny >> for the

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-14 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > The Sam Altmans of the world are bound and determined to exercise tyranny > for the good of their victims -- which amplifies any mistakes in choosing a > world model selection criterion (ie: loss function). > Too philosophical for my taste, I like being direct and express my feelings in real w

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread James Bowery
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who t

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > Anything other than lossless compression as Turing Test V2 is best called > a "Rutting Test" since it is all about suitors of capital displaying one's > prowess in a contest of bullshit. > If an email list on AGI that’s been going on for 20 years can’t devise a benchmark for AGI, wouldn’t hist

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > Your test is the opposite of objective and measurable. What if two high IQ > people disagree if a robot acts like a human or not? > > Which IQ test? There are plenty of high IQ societies that will tell you > your IQ is 180 as long as you pay the membership fee. > > What if I upload the same sof

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Matt Mahoney
Your test is the opposite of objective and measurable. What if two high IQ people disagree if a robot acts like a human or not? Which IQ test? There are plenty of high IQ societies that will tell you your IQ is 180 as long as you pay the membership fee. What if I upload the same software to a Bos

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread James Bowery
Anything other than lossless compression as Turing Test V2 is best called a "Rutting Test" since it is all about suitors of capital displaying one's prowess in a contest of bullshit. On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 6:59 AM Keyvan M. Sadeghi < keyvan.m.sade...@gmail.com> wrote: > It’s different than Turin

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
It’s different than Turing Test in that it’s measurable and not subject to interpretation. But it follows the same principle, that an agent’s behavior is ultimately what matters. It’s Turing Test V2. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: h

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-11 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > An LLM has human like behavior. Does it pass the Ruting test? How is this > different from the Turing test? > The instructions are clear, one should upload the code in a robot body, and let it act in the real world. Then a high IQ human observer can confirm whether the behavior is human-like

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-10 Thread Matt Mahoney
An LLM has human like behavior. Does it pass the Ruting test? How is this different from the Turing test? On Fri, May 10, 2024, 9:05 PM Keyvan M. Sadeghi wrote: > The name is a joke, but the test itself is concise and simple, a true > benchmark. > > > If you upload your code in a robot and 1 hi

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-10 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
High IQ is 145 to 159, according to Google. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T244a8630dc835f49-M3bce942aa67c46a4785c1df9 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-10 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
The name is a joke, but the test itself is concise and simple, a true benchmark. > If you upload your code in a robot and 1 high IQ person confirms it has human-like behavior, you’ve passed the Ruting Test. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Perma

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-10 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
> > Ruting is an anagram of Turing? > Yeah, too lame? I’ve recently became a father, so I’m generating dad jokes apparently 😂 -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T244a8630dc835f49-M98a7abac4626191f2e5

Re: [agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-10 Thread Matt Mahoney
Ruting is an anagram of Turing? On Thu, May 9, 2024, 8:04 PM Keyvan M. Sadeghi wrote: > > https://www.linkedin.com/posts/keyvanmsadeghi_agi-activity-7194481824406908928-0ENT > *Artificial General Intelligence List * > / AGI / see discussions

[agi] Ruting Test of AGI

2024-05-09 Thread Keyvan M. Sadeghi
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/keyvanmsadeghi_agi-activity-7194481824406908928-0ENT -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T244a8630dc835f49-Mb5b95fd1d7ea545b8b9a0f44 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbo