That's a good article. Level 5s don't need to read it because ewe already know
everything in it, like me, but others, sure! I gave it a read this time.
"Consider that we don’t actually experience how our perceptions are created,
how our thoughts and sentences are produced, how we recall our
Is it time to give up on consciousness as ‘the ghost in the machine’?:
https://theconversation.com/is-it-time-to-give-up-on-consciousness-as-the-ghost-in-the-machine-160688
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On Friday, June 04, 2021, at 11:25 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> A spirit can't see, smell, or think because you need a specific machine to do
> that
Using the thousand mind model, Subconscious and conscious mind program are
running in a brain.
They can be seen as a spirit or ghost, under
And that's same for consciousness. You need some levers, gears, and fires to
make something beep, blink, and light up.
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Spirits/ orbs/ ghosts/ magic can't exist, only rules and randomness can exist
where a particle or machine does something when some condition exists.
A spirit can't see, smell, or think because you need a specific machine to do
that. A spirit, can do nothing, not live, not think, not feel good,
On Thursday, June 03, 2021, at 11:17 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> No, the thing that nobody can agree on the meaning of because nobody can
> define it. So we argue about completely different things without realizing it.
The physical you is different from the informationally projected you outside of
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 9:31 PM John Rose wrote:
> On Thursday, June 03, 2021, at 6:58 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
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> I think yous are using the wrong word, try something else maybe?
> Consciousness means ghost or spirit or something that cannot be made/ a
> machine made of particles. At least
On Thursday, June 03, 2021, at 9:23 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> Eating a consciousness is how you become a bigger consciousness orb.
Well if you eat brains you become smarter because of the chemicals... there are
nootropics you can purchase as pills or get from eating raw brain. So it's
On Thursday, June 03, 2021, at 6:58 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote:
> I think yous are using the wrong word, try something else maybe?
> Consciousness means ghost or spirit or something that cannot be made/ a
> machine made of particles. At least it sounds like you mean that meaning
> (ghost
Eating a consciousness is how you become a bigger consciousness orb.
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On Thursday, June 03, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> We already know how to engineer empathy. We do this all the time. It's called
> user friendliness. The software anticipates what we will want and does the
> right thing. We even invent new symbols to do it, like menus, icons, and
>
Ya like 2+2=4, but must ask it in the objective sense, and has no proof else
you could write it out. Both are something you can build, in the later case it
is just less details are known. In the 3rd case, full objectiveness, is
nonesense, you cannot build it, it is just all consciousnessallism,
It seems to me that the essential characteristic of the sensation of
consciousness is not empathy but a survival instinct. The authors also
suggest that conscious machines should have human rights or at least a
right to life. This is a very dangerous combination that a lot of people
don't realize.
I think yous are using the wrong word, try something else maybe? Consciousness
means ghost or spirit or something that cannot be made/ a machine made of
particles. At least it sounds like you mean that meaning (ghost meaning).
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Mr Rose that is impressive. And my work is some what parallel this.
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That’s a very thoughtful post Matt.
In the first paper they’re talking about the emergence of consciousness. They
argue consciousness is important to AI (assume AGI too) for at least on very
important thing - empathy.
This consciousness/communication structure is very close to what I’ve been
No matter what machine you could invent, it will never be able to prove it is
anything more than a machine. We are no different. Why just because I say
something do I make myself more worth? I could say I am god, or indestructable,
or the great one, or the only one, it's just words, just sound
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 7:28 AM John Rose wrote:
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> I think these two recent papers support the idea that consciousness is
> Universal Communication Protocol. Though it could be thought of more of as
> pre-protocol hmmm… There are arguments for and against conscious AGI but it
> still must be
On Thursday, June 03, 2021, at 10:32 AM, A.T. Murray wrote:
> Mentifex Theory of Consciousness
Yes Mentifex, I'm sure Chalmers deeply considered your diagram before
publishing his paper. I'll paste it below let's see if it maintains
formatting. We know the consciousness isn't labeled since
On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 4:27 AM John Rose wrote:
> I think these two recent papers support the idea that consciousness is
> Universal Communication Protocol. Though it could be thought of more of as
> pre-protocol hmmm… There are arguments for and against conscious AGI but it
> still must be
I think these two recent papers support the idea that consciousness is
Universal Communication Protocol. Though it could be thought of more of as
pre-protocol hmmm… There are arguments for and against conscious AGI but it
still must be explored. The first paper describes conscious AI from a
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