[agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread John Scanlon
Is anyone interested in discussing the use of formal logic as the foundation for knowledge representation schemes for AI? It'sa common approach, but I think it's the wrong path. Even if you add probability or fuzzy logic, it's still insufficient for true intelligence. The human brain, the

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation-- Funny Language

2006-05-07 Thread DGoe
I believe there will be a subset of words for logic as the english language and the definitions can be interpreted in different ways leading to false determinations. I am sure the interpretaions of many languages might lead to false determinations. What being said or what was printed was

RE: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread Gary Miller
John said: The human brain, the only high-level intelligent system currently known, uses language and logic for abstract reasoning, but these are based on, and owe their existence to, a more fundamental level of intelligence -- that of pattern-recognition, pattern-matching, and pattern

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread Pei Wang
On 5/7/06, John Scanlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone interested in discussing the use of formal logic as the foundation for knowledge representation schemes for AI? It's a common approach, but I think it's the wrong path. Even if you add probability or fuzzy logic, it's still

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread sanjay padmane
On 5/7/06, Gary Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My opinion on the most probableroute to a true AI Entity is: 1. Build a better fuzzy pattern representation language with an inference mechanism for extracting inducible information from user inputs. Fuzziness allows the language to

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread Pei Wang
On 5/7/06, sanjay padmane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/7/06, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AI doesn't necessarily follow the same path as how human intelligence is produced, even though it is indeed the only path that has been proved to work so far. IMO, if a machine achieves true

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread mwaser
1. Build a better fuzzy pattern representation language with an inference mechanism for extracting inducible information from user inputs. I'd be interested in hearing more about your fuzzy pattern representation language (either on-list or off). Do you have anything written up? Thanks.

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 09:29:51AM -0400, Ben Goertzel wrote: However, this does not imply that in an AI, these things cannot be done using explicit logic operations. It's possible to build anything from NAND gates. But in practice, there are usually other constraints to implementation.

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread Charles D Hixson
John Scanlon wrote: Is anyone interested in discussing the use of formal logic as the foundation for knowledge representation schemes for AI? It's a common approach, but I think it's the wrong path. Even if you add probability or fuzzy logic, it's still insufficient for true intelligence.

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread John Scanlon
The case of Helen Keller can certainly shed some light on the human processes of knowledge acquisition. Without the senses of vision and hearing, how could she build up an internal model of the world and her place in it? I don't remember the exact number, but something like 70% of the

Re: [agi] Logic and Knowledge Representation

2006-05-07 Thread J. Andrew Rogers
On May 7, 2006, at 6:37 PM, Gary Miller wrote: Which is why my research has led to a pattern language that can compress all of the synonymous thoughts into a single pattern. The obvious question is how do you deal with the problem of the synonymity of patterns being context sensitive? In