Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread BillK
On 1/6/07, Bob Mottram wrote: This is the way it's going to go in my opinion. In a house or office the robots would really be dumb actuators - puppets - being controlled from a central AI which integrates multiple systems together. That way you can keep the cost and maintenance requirements of

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Bob Mottram
On 06/01/07, Gary Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I like the idea of the house being the central AI though and communicating to house robots through an wireless encrypted protocol to prevent inadvertant commands from other systems and hacking. This is the way it's going to go in my opinion

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Bob Mottram
On 06/01/07, Mike Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really want to see a central traffic computer take driving away from all the unqualified (or disinterested) drivers on the roads. I'd really like to see companies get incentives to allow "knowledge workers" work from home offices to save

RE: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Gary Miller
Ben Said: > Being able to understand natural language commands pertaining > to cleaning up the house is a whole other kettle of fish, of > course. This, as opposed to the actual house-cleaning, appears > to be an "AGI-hard" problem... A full Turing complete Natural Language system would not be

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Philip Goetz
On 1/6/07, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Reflectors have been used on AGVs for quite some time. However, even using reflectors the robot has no real idea of what its environment looks like. Most of the time it's flying blind, guessing its way between reflectors, like a moth navigating

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Dougherty
On 1/6/07, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Needless to say, I don't consider cleaning up the house a particularly interesting goal for AGI projects. I can well imagine it being done by a narrow AI system with no capability to do anything besides manipulate simple objects, navigate,

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Needless to say, I don't consider cleaning up the house a particularly interesting goal for AGI projects. I can well imagine it being done by a narrow AI system with no capability to do anything besides manipulate simple objects, navigate, etc. Being able to understand natural language commands

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Pei Wang
"Stanford scientists plan to make a robot capable of performing everyday tasks, such as unloading the dishwasher." http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2006/november8/ng-110806.html On 1/6/07, Benjamin Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem wasn't technological. It was that nobod

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
The problem wasn't technological. It was that nobody had any use for a robot. We never figured out what people would want the robot for. I think that's still the problem. Phil, I think the real issue is that no one wants an expensive, stupid, awkward robot... A broadly functional household

Re: [agi] SOTA

2007-01-06 Thread Bob Mottram
On 06/01/07, Philip Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I worked for a robotics company called Arctec in the early 1980s. We built a robot called the Gemini. They essentially solved the navigation problem - in an office-space world. You stuck one small reflector on both sides of every door, at in