Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 08:33:13PM +, Russell Wallace wrote: What simulation algorithms did you have in mind with that data Anything vaguely physical, and doing long-range interactions by iteration of overlapping local neighbourhoods. It's not much of a constraint. Of course, you have to

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Wallace
On 3/7/07, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything vaguely physical, and doing long-range interactions by iteration of overlapping local neighbourhoods. It's not much of a constraint. Of course, you have to add more data to the volume element, depending on what you want to do. I'm

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Bob Mottram
I can confirm from practical experimentation that 8bit integers are too coarse to be able to model the probability density of a three dimensional space using the classic occupancy grid mapping method, but that you can just about get away with using 16bits for some applications. Personally I'm

[agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
Just noticed this on Slashdot. Open source but not free software, for those of you for whom this makes a difference. http://www.numenta.com/for-developers/software.php Josh - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to:

Re: [agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread Shane Legg
It might however be worth thinking about the licence: Confidentiality. 1. Protection of Confidential Information. You agree that all code, inventions, algorithms, business concepts, workflow, ideas, and all other business, technical and financial information, including but not limited to the

Re: [agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread Bob Mottram
That's pretty evil. I wouldn't use the Numenta software simply on the basis of this licence. On 07/03/07, Shane Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might however be worth thinking about the licence: Confidentiality. 1. Protection of Confidential Information. You agree that all code,

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 2/19/07, John Scanlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Logical deduction or inference is not thought. It is mechanical symbol manipulation that can can be programmed into any scientific pocket calculator. [...] Hi John, I admire your attitude for attacking the core AI issues =) One is

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 3/2/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about English? Irregular grammar is only a tiny part of the language modeling problem. Uaing an artificial language with a regular grammar to simplify the problem is a false path. If people actually used Logban then it would be used in

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
I agree with Ben and Pei etc on this issue. Narrow AI is VERY different from general AI. It is not at all easy to integrate several narrow AI applications to a single, functioning system. I have never heard of something like this being done, even for two computer vision programs. IMO what we

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread J. Storrs Hall, PhD.
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 10:34, YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote: I discovered something cool: computational pragmatics. You may take a look at Jerry R Hobbs' paper: Interpretation as Abduction, ... Nice. Note that one of the reasons that I'm going the numerical route is that some powerful methods

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Ben Goertzel
YKY (Yan King Yin) wrote: I agree with Ben and Pei etc on this issue. Narrow AI is VERY different from general AI. It is not at all easy to integrate several narrow AI applications to a single, functioning system. I have never heard of something like this being done, even for two computer

Re: [agi] The Missing Piece

2007-03-07 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/2/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about English? Irregular grammar is only a tiny part of the language modeling problem. Uaing an artificial language with a regular grammar to simplify the problem is a false path. If

Re: [agi] general weak ai

2007-03-07 Thread Russell Wallace
On 3/7/07, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A more interesting question to think about, rather than how to represent a story in a formal language, is: How would you convince yourself that your AGI actually understood a story? What kind of question-answers or behaviors would convince you

Re: [agi] Numenta (Hawkins) software released

2007-03-07 Thread Aki Iskandar
Well - that's one way to steal work. Thanks Jeff! No wonder they are letting people at it. They must be using the same lawyers Microsoft uses :-o Thanks for the heads up Shane. I'm very bad about just blindly accepting terms of use, and licenses. ~Aki On 7-Mar-07, at 10:02 AM, Bob