RE: Hacker intelligence level [WAS Re: [agi] Funding AGI research]

2007-12-01 Thread Ed Porter
John, I tested Exeter, NH to LA at 5371kbs download, and 362Kbs upload. Strangelly my scores were slightly slower to NYC. Just throwing out ideas, for example, AGI-at-home PC's in the net could crawl the web looking for reasonable NL text. Use current NL tools to guess parse and word sense. Fo

RE: Re[2]: [agi] Self-building AGI

2007-12-01 Thread Ed Porter
I currently think there are some human human-level intelligences who know how to build most of an AGI, at least enough to get up and running systems that would solve many aspects of the AGI problem and help us better understand what, if any other aspects of the problem needed to be solved. I think

Re: Re[2]: [agi] Lets count neurons

2007-12-01 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Dennis Gorelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt, > > > Using pointers saves memory but sacrifices speed. Random memory access is > > slow due to cache misses. By using a matrix, you can perform vector > > operations very fast in parallel using SSE2 instructions on modern > processors, > >

Re: [agi] Self-building AGI

2007-12-01 Thread Charles D Hixson
Well... Have you ever tried to understand the code created by a decompiler? Especially if the original language that was compiled isn't the one that you are decompiling into... I'm not certain that just because we can look at the code of a working AGI, that we can therefore understand it. N

Re[4]: [agi] Self-building AGI

2007-12-01 Thread Dennis Gorelik
John, > If you look at nanotechnology one of the goals is to build machines that > build machines. Couldn't software based AGI be similar? Eventually AGIs will be able to build other AGIs, but first AGI models won't be able to build any software. - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://ww

RE: Re[2]: [agi] Self-building AGI

2007-12-01 Thread John G. Rose
> From: Dennis Gorelik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > There are programs that already write source code. > The trick is to write working and useful apps. Many of the apps that write code basically take data and statically convert it to a source code representation. So a code generator may allow you t

[agi] Motivational Systems again [WAS Re: Hacker intelligence level]

2007-12-01 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Tintner wrote: RL:However, I have previously written a good deal about the design of different types of motivation system, and my understanding of the likely situation is that by the time we had gotten the AGI working, its motivations would have been arranged in such a way that it would *wan