[agi] OpenCog's business model

2008-01-19 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
How much of OpenCog will be finally opensource? 100%? Or will it be partially open? IMO the partial-open model still has the problems of both open and closed source models: the open parts cannot make much money, and the closed parts cannot recieve public input. Though, I appreciate that Ben

[agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimystery?currentPage=all I guess the moral here is Stay away from attempts to hand-program a database of common-sense assertions. -- Eliezer S. Yudkowsky http://singinst.org/ Research Fellow, Singularity Institute

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
Well, Lenat survives... But he paid people to build his database (Cyc) What's depressing is trying to get folks to build a commonsense KB for free ... then you get confronted with the absolute stupidity of what they enter, and the poverty and repetitiveness of their senses of humor... ;-p ben

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Bob Mottram
Some thoughts of mine on the article. http://streebgreebling.blogspot.com/2008/01/singh-and-mckinstry.html On 19/01/2008, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimystery?currentPage=all I guess the moral here is Stay away from

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Bob Mottram
Quality is an issue, but it's really all about volume. Provided that you have enough volume the signal stands out from the noise. The solution is probably to make the knowledge capture into a game or something that people will do as entertainment. Possibly the Second Life approach will provide

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Lukasz Kaiser
This thread has nothing to do with artificial general intelligence - please close this thread. Thanks Sorry, but I have to say that I strongly disagree. There are many aspects of agi that are non-technical and organizing one's own live while doing ai is certainly one of them. That's why I think

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Ben Goertzel
On Jan 19, 2008 5:53 PM, a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has nothing to do with artificial general intelligence - please close this thread. Thanks IMO, this thread is close enough to AGI to be list-worthy. It is certainly true that knowledge-entry is not my preferred approach to AGI ...

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread a
This thread has nothing to do with artificial general intelligence - please close this thread. Thanks Bob Mottram wrote: Quality is an issue, but it's really all about volume. Provided that you have enough volume the signal stands out from the noise. The solution is probably to make the

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread J Storrs Hall, PhD
Breeds There a Man...? by Isaac Asimov On Saturday 19 January 2008 04:42:30 pm, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimystery?currentPage=all I guess the moral here is Stay away from attempts to hand-program a database of common-sense

[agi] Texai bootstrap dialog system design

2008-01-19 Thread Stephen Reed
I've posted a brief design document for the Texai bootstrap dialog system on my blog. http://texai.org/blog/2008/01/20/bootstrap-dialog-system-design -Steve Stephen L. Reed Artificial Intelligence Researcher http://texai.org/blog http://texai.org 3008 Oak Crest Ave. Austin, Texas, USA 78704

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Stephen Reed
The article on the fate of the two AI researchers was interesting. Perhaps many here share their belief that AGI will vastly change the world. It is however unfortunate that they did not seek medical help for their symptoms of depression - no one needs to suffer that kind of pain. They were

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimystery?currentPage=all Turing also committed suicide. Building a copy of your mind raises deeply troubling issues. Logically, there is no need for it to be conscious; it only needs to

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Jan 19, 2008 8:24 PM, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/16-02/ff_aimystery?currentPage=all Turing also committed suicide. That's a personal solution to the Halting problem I do not plan to

Re: [agi] OpenMind, MindPixel founders both commit suicide

2008-01-19 Thread Joshua Fox
Turing also committed suicide. And Chislenko. Each of these people had different circumstances, and suicide strikes everywhere, but I wonder if there is a common thread. Joshua - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go