RE: [agi] Pattern extrapolation as a method requiring limited intelligence

2008-05-23 Thread John G. Rose
The environmental complexities are different. NYC has been there for hundreds of years. Human brain has been in nature for hundreds of thousands of years. A manmade environment for AGI is custom made in the beginning; we don't just throw it out on the street or into the jungle. It can start off in

RE: [agi] Pattern extrapolation as a method requiring limited intelligence

2008-05-23 Thread John G. Rose
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John:The synchronous melodies of the crickets strumming their legs, changes harmony as the wind moves warmthness. The reeds vibrate; the birds, fearing the snake, break their rhythmic falsetto polyphonies and flutter away to new pastures.

Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers [WAS Re: Singularity Outcomes...]

2008-05-23 Thread Richard Loosemore
Kaj Sotala wrote: Richard, again, I must sincerely apologize for responding to this so horrendously late. It's a dreadful bad habit of mine: I get an e-mail (or blog comment, or forum message, or whatever) that requires some thought before I respond, so I don't answer it right away... and

Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers [WAS Re: Singularity Outcomes...]

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Waser
he makes a direct reference to goal driven systems, but even more important he declares that these bad behaviors will *not* be the result of us programming the behaviors in at the start but in an MES system nothing at all will happen unless the designer makes an explicit decision to put some

[agi] Language Comprehension: Archival Memory or ...

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Tintner
Preparation for Situated Action http://psychology.emory.edu/cognition/barsalou/papers/Barsalou_DP_1999_situated_comprehension.pdf This is what Stephen and I were discussing a while back - but it neatly names the alternative approaches to language. Most AGI language comprehension treats it as

Re: [agi] Language Comprehension: Archival Memory or ...

2008-05-23 Thread Mark Waser
Several comments . . . . First, this work is hideously outdated. The author cites his own reading for some chapters he produced in 1992. His claim that the dominant paradigms for studying language comprehension imply that it is an archival process is *at best* hideously outdated -- if

[agi] More Info Please

2008-05-23 Thread Mike Tintner
... on this: http://www.adaptiveai.com/news/index.htm Towards Commercialization It's been a while. We've been busy. A good kind of busy. At the end of March we completed an important milestone: a demo system consolidating our prior 10 months' work. This was followed by my annual

Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-23 Thread Ben Goertzel
Peter has some technical info on his overall (adaptive neural net) based approach to AI, on his company website, which is based on a paper he wrote in the AGI volume Cassio and I edited for Springer (written 2002, published 2006). However, he has kept his specific commercial product direction

RE: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-23 Thread Peter Voss
Thanks, Ben. The technical details of our design and business plan details are indeed confidential. All I can really say publicly is that we are confident that we have pretty direct path to high-level AGI from where we are, and that we have an extremely viable business plan to make this happen.

Re: [agi] Goal Driven Systems and AI Dangers [WAS Re: Singularity Outcomes...]

2008-05-23 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mark Waser wrote: he makes a direct reference to goal driven systems, but even more important he declares that these bad behaviors will *not* be the result of us programming the behaviors in at the start but in an MES system nothing at all will happen unless the designer makes an explicit

Re: [agi] More Info Please

2008-05-23 Thread Richard Loosemore
Peter Voss wrote: Thanks, Ben. The technical details of our design and business plan details are indeed confidential. All I can really say publicly is that we are confident that we have pretty direct path to high-level AGI from where we are, and that we have an extremely viable business plan to