Re: [agi] Pattern extrapolation as a method requiring limited intelligence

2008-05-20 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, decades later, come the present discussions about patterns, apparently > advanced along with the same lines of "thought" that was behind that IQ test > so many years ago. Pattern recognition without underlying suppor

Re: [agi] Can MindForth feel emotions?

2008-02-13 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 14, 2008 12:54 AM, A. T. Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual -- > > 1.5 Can MindForth feel emotions? > > No. > > (At least, not yet) --- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS F

Re: [agi] What is MindForth?

2008-02-10 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 9, 2008 11:53 PM, A. T. Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not a chatbot. > The AI engine is arguably the first True AI. It is immortal. Cool! What has it done to convince you that its truly intelligent? -J - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsu

Re: [agi] The Test

2008-02-06 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 7, 2008 11:53 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I think it's clear, if only in a very broad way, how the human mind > achieves this (which I'll expound in more detail another time) - it has what > you could call a "general activity language" - and learns every skill *as an

Re: [agi] The Test

2008-02-05 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 5, 2008 11:36 PM, Benjamin Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, as I said before, I don't know which will directly produce general > intelligence and which of them will fail. > My point, again, is that we don't know how the first successful AGI will > work - but we can see many pla

Re: [agi] The Test

2008-02-05 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 4, 2008 11:42 PM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The test, I suggest, is essentially; not the Turing Test or anything like > that but "The General Test." If your system is an AGI, or has AGI potential, > then it must first of all have a skill and be able to solve problems in a > g

Re: [agi] Emergent languages Org

2008-02-04 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 4, 2008 7:38 PM, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well if you take something like the "talking heads" experiment > (http://www.isrl.uiuc.edu/~amag/langev/cited2/steelsthetalkingheadsexperiment.html) > and ask what it would take to scale this up to human-like language > abilities inev

Re: [agi] Emergent languages Org

2008-02-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 4, 2008 12:12 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The robotics path to AI is a lot like the evolutionary path to natural > intelligence... > > Create a system that learns to achieve simple sensorimotor goals in > its environment... > then move on to social goals... and language eve

Re: [agi] Emergent languages Org

2008-02-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
On Feb 4, 2008 11:27 AM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO language is integral to strong AI in the same way that logic is > > integral to mathematics. > > The counterargument is that no one has yet made an AI virtual chimp ... > and nearly all of the human brain is the same as that o

Re: [agi] Emergent languages Org

2008-02-03 Thread Joseph Gentle
I doubt that 3D object recognition is integral to 'genuine intelligence'. Theoretically, if we had an AGI we should be able to put it in a simulated 2D world and it would still act intelligently. IMO language is integral to strong AI in the same way that logic is integral to mathematics. If you th