Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
oops, i meant 1895 ... damn that dyslexia ;-) ... though the other way was funnier, it was less accurate!! On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm only pointing out something everybody here knows full well: embodiment in various forms has, so far, failed

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-11 Thread Ben Goertzel
I'm only pointing out something everybody here knows full well: embodiment in various forms has, so far, failed to provide any real help in cracking the NLU problem. Might it in the future? Sure. But the key word there is might. To me, you sound like a guy in 1985 saying So far, wings

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-11 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dave, Well, I thought I'd described how pretty well. Even why. See my recent conversation with Dr. Heger on this list. I'll be happy to answer specific questions based on those explanations but I'm not going to repeat them here. Simply haven't got the time. Although I have not been

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-11 Thread David Hart
Hi Brad, An interesting point of conceptual agreement between OCP and Texai designs is that very specifically engineered bootstrapping processes are necessary to push into AGI territory. Attempting to summarize using my limited knowledge, Texai hopes to achieve that boostrapping via reasoning

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-06 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dr. Matthias Heger wrote: Brad Pausen wrote The question I'm raising in this thread is more one of priorities and allocation of scarce resources. Engineers and scientists comprise only about 1% of the world's population. Is human-level NLU worth the resources it has consumed, and will

Re: [agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-06 Thread David Hart
Brad, Your post describes your position *very* well, thanks. But, it does not describe *how* or *why* your AI system might achieve domain expertise any faster/better/cheaper than other narrow-AI systems (NLU capable, embodied, or otherwise) on its way to achieving networked-AGI. The list would

[agi] It is more important how AGI works than what it can do.

2008-10-05 Thread Dr. Matthias Heger
Brad Pausen wrote The question I'm raising in this thread is more one of priorities and allocation of scarce resources. Engineers and scientists comprise only about 1% of the world's population. Is human-level NLU worth the resources it has consumed, and will continue to consume, in the